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Permalink Reply by Jake Stew on July 16, 2012 at 9:22am

Are you trying to say that the Naza stabilizes better than the APM?

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Permalink Reply by Jo Peer on July 16, 2012 at 10:58am

Stabilize is pretty much the same to fly around in.  Arducopter also felt stable to me.

Although the Naza keeps the yaw much better.

But loiter = perfect (I don't think it gets better than this)

And I'm not talking about loiter without wind, I'm talking about loiter in really gusty winds.

RTL that works perfectly every time.

Home lock and course lock that work perfectly!

In other words, DJI's Naza & GPS is a much better platform.

It works out of the box!

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Permalink Reply by Jake Stew on July 16, 2012 at 12:16pm

What about tuning PIDs and tweaking all the variables?  Isn't that a better way?

APM devs say you have to adjust all sorts of variables for each copter.  Maybe that really isn't necessary?

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Permalink Reply by Jo Peer on July 16, 2012 at 2:56pm

Jake, be my guest and try to tune them all.

I don't think you will ever get the result I'm getting with DJI Naza.

 

BTW, my frame, ESC's and motors are none of them DJI products.  So apparently their software handles a wide range of hardware, no tuning there!

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Permalink Reply by roger on July 16, 2012 at 4:50pm

Jo thanks for the reply ... still trying to pinpoint the specific naza component you have.

a. Does this link appropriately describe what you bought from naza?

b. You said all your other hexacopter components are non-DJI products, would you mind showing your specs?

Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by Jo Peer on July 17, 2012 at 12:18am

DJI Innovations is the company, manufacturer.

Naza = name of the flight controller.

GPS = additional unit for loiter, heading hold, rth, etc.

All together it costs 400$.  Yes, that's more than the APM.  But you will save money because you won't crash trying stuff that doesn't work properly.  And still it is not that expensive.

a. Yes, that's the product.

b. Jakub's old hexa frame (bought it 1 year ago from quadframe.com, they already have new better hexa frames), Hobbyking SS 18-20A ESC's, KDA motors 20-22L and APC props 10x4.7

 

BTW, hey also have a more expensive model, the Wookong. If you want waypoints and stuff.  Then it get's expensive.

But I don't need that bling bling at all.

Permalink Reply by Jake Stew on July 16, 2012 at 10:51pm

So maybe the PIDs are just BS?

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Permalink Reply by Sean M on July 16, 2012 at 3:36pm

I too have the Naza + GPS and got my quad to fly on the first try.. Yes, I tweaked the gain settings some, but it flew right away. I love it. I did recently buy the APM 2.0 (Waiting the month for it to ship).

While the NAZA works great, for me, I get bored with it somewhat fast because it's that good! (I want something thats a challenge)
 I set it to GPS hold and can seriously drink a beer and have a conversation and not even be worried.

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Permalink Reply by roger on July 16, 2012 at 4:52pm

Sean, could you

a. verify as well if this link appropriately describe what you bought from naza for your system ... is it a hexacopter?

b. Does your multicopter have DJI components or non-DJI products? would you mind showing your specs as well?

Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by Sean M on July 16, 2012 at 5:24pm

Roger
A. That is the FC with gps. I have a dji f450 quad, just bought a hex frame.

B. yes, I bought a kit. It's has the dji 2212 920kv motors and 30amp opto esc.

Frame: dji f450
Flight controller: naza - m
Motors: 4 2212 920kv dji motors
Esc: 4 30amp opto
Battery: 3s 2200 (8-12 min flight)
Prop: stock 8x4.5 djis (just ordered some graupners 10x5's)
Radio: rds8000 (just bought turnigy 9x)

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Permalink Reply by Jo Peer on July 17, 2012 at 12:21am

I know, that Naza is unbelievable!!! :-)

I needed a reliable product, so I'm just happy that everything is working!

 

If you have the time and patience, Arducopter is your board!

But still then, I wouldn't rely on it...

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