i actually continue to have serious issues getting APM to work in e.g. Loiter.
Here, you can see a video with the usual behaviour: http://youtu.be/3HDaQzrht9w
Out of 20 times i tried, loiter worked two times. - In between one time it worked and the next one, i did nothing than to change the battery.
I always waited to have GPS lock, always lifted off in stabilize and then switched over to loiter. Also, i use Auto-Inclination and the latest software as of yesterday.
It's really frustrating to see APM not working as it should - it has cost me by now by far more money and time it would have to buy a WKM with 50 waypoints even.
I have also constructed a special copter due to it crashing so often to use crash bars - see picture below - these are only 1/4 of the aluminum bars which i have destroyed up to now and 1/2 of the props which i have shredded.
Is it really not possible to get this thing flying in loiter ?
If there is somebody here to help with this, i would highly appreciate it.
- If i need to pull logs or settings from the craft, i would be very happy to do so.
Can somebody please help with this one ?
Are you trying to say that the Naza stabilizes better than the APM?
Stabilize is pretty much the same to fly around in. Arducopter also felt stable to me.
Although the Naza keeps the yaw much better.
But loiter = perfect (I don't think it gets better than this)
And I'm not talking about loiter without wind, I'm talking about loiter in really gusty winds.
RTL that works perfectly every time.
Home lock and course lock that work perfectly!
In other words, DJI's Naza & GPS is a much better platform.
It works out of the box!
What about tuning PIDs and tweaking all the variables? Isn't that a better way?
APM devs say you have to adjust all sorts of variables for each copter. Maybe that really isn't necessary?
Jake, be my guest and try to tune them all.
I don't think you will ever get the result I'm getting with DJI Naza.
BTW, my frame, ESC's and motors are none of them DJI products. So apparently their software handles a wide range of hardware, no tuning there!
Jo thanks for the reply ... still trying to pinpoint the specific naza component you have.
a. Does this link appropriately describe what you bought from naza?
b. You said all your other hexacopter components are non-DJI products, would you mind showing your specs?
DJI Innovations is the company, manufacturer.
Naza = name of the flight controller.
GPS = additional unit for loiter, heading hold, rth, etc.
All together it costs 400$. Yes, that's more than the APM. But you will save money because you won't crash trying stuff that doesn't work properly. And still it is not that expensive.
a. Yes, that's the product.
b. Jakub's old hexa frame (bought it 1 year ago from quadframe.com, they already have new better hexa frames), Hobbyking SS 18-20A ESC's, KDA motors 20-22L and APC props 10x4.7
BTW, hey also have a more expensive model, the Wookong. If you want waypoints and stuff. Then it get's expensive.
But I don't need that bling bling at all.
So maybe the PIDs are just BS?
I too have the Naza + GPS and got my quad to fly on the first try.. Yes, I tweaked the gain settings some, but it flew right away. I love it. I did recently buy the APM 2.0 (Waiting the month for it to ship).
While the NAZA works great, for me, I get bored with it somewhat fast because it's that good! (I want something thats a challenge)
I set it to GPS hold and can seriously drink a beer and have a conversation and not even be worried.
Sean, could you
a. verify as well if this link appropriately describe what you bought from naza for your system ... is it a hexacopter?
b. Does your multicopter have DJI components or non-DJI products? would you mind showing your specs as well?
I know, that Naza is unbelievable!!! :-)
I needed a reliable product, so I'm just happy that everything is working!
If you have the time and patience, Arducopter is your board!
But still then, I wouldn't rely on it...