The Turnigy H.A.L Frame looks to be quite nice....Not sure what Heavy means, but this this is made of aluminum, and at 614grams, is not too heavy, provided the right motors and props are used....I think I will go ahead and order one, and try it out... Anyway, more information over at HobbyKing:  http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22732__Turnigy_H_A_L_Heavy_Aerial_Lift_Quadcopter_Frame_58…