"R_Lefebvre -- my vote is 'before'.
And, really, the arguing of technicalities is all besides the point. Far more important to the future of this hobby is this: there is no entity of any consequence that has a vested interest in its…"
"Charles -- those restrictions are only in the circular. As Patrick pointed out, it's a pretty weak document but it's taken on a life of its own.
Patrick -- the 'endangering national airspace' provision seems like a backstop that…"
"Sgt Ric -- there's a nuance here in this discussion as a result of the vast grey area of regulation of these activities that others have picked up on above; namely that there's a difference between ILlegal and 'not legal', which…"
"Also, to all the stuff about people flying legally (especially the aerial camera operators): it's all a lie. It's not legal to fly for commercial services in the United States, and it's not legal to fly a "remotely-piloted…"
"Patrick: I agree with your understanding of the "circular" nuance, and have read all the FAA docs myself. In fact, it's rather amusing just how low-fi this governing 'circular' is -- basically a memo dashed off by an FAA…"
"Matthew -- yes, that's exactly what I was getting at. There are those in this community who advocate embracing the 'drone' moniker and to simply go with the media tide. By and large, these are people who are heavily invested in the…"
"Hey Matthew -- I want to sincerely apologize. My post was too harsh and I didn't mean to malign you or the good ideas you've had and will continue to have. I just feel passionately about this field, and I want to see people taking actions…"
"Matthew, you are absolutely correct -- the decision-making on this point is about branding and PR. And you are absolutely incorrect about what your proposal is to effect these ends.
Firstly, I think you've misunderstood my point, or at least…"
"Guys -- there is no chance the word 'drone' will morph. No chance. 100,000 hobbyists screaming in perfect unison doesn't even make up 1/100th of an evening news story on a shady 'drone' strike in Yemen. "Owning"…"
"Guys: everyone agrees that this industry/hobby/field has a _huge_ image problem. And I like the discussion here about the need to rectify that.
But many of you are really missing the forest for the trees. If you use the word 'drone', you…"
It's not as crazy as it sounds though. Think about this from an FAA perspective: craft needs to be standardized and licensed for airworthiness, repair and maintenance needs to be routine, and communication in the larger airspace ecosystem…"
"Also, to your previous comment-- the patent threat to SteadiDrone is not credible and would be immediately thrown out if challenged. The owner of that patent logged into these forums in order to issue a legal threat and was immediately drowned out…"
"Dennis, given sufficient visible commercial and social value, society will strike a balance of permission and restraint. The real issue is how that value is demonstrated -now-, in order to elicit the balanced consideration it requires. The problem…"
"Here's the thing that makes this very, very different from PCs, or CB radios, or whatever wonderfully optimistic analogy you want to throw around: these platforms are mobile, and they carry huge privacy concerns and can be easily converted to…"
"This is going to be the future worldwide. Basically, the party's going to be over very soon with everybody being able to fly devices over property they don't own and take photos of people/property without their permission.
I love what I call "hard-core" mathematics. Its what I am all about. Take a look at this paper, for example. I suspect that you have looked at some of my discussions, but if not, here is a link to that.