Boundary layer turbine (Tesla turbine) propulsion

One of the major weak spots with multi-rotors is the exposed propeller blades, they break and they hurt things.

I know people have designed guards and experimented with ducted fans, but has anyone done work with a boundary layer turbine arrangement? I've been kicking this idea around in the back of my head for some time now and just recently saw a ceiling fan project that uses this effect.

 I always imagined a nested conical frustum stack (imagine lamp shades stacked on top of one another with a small gap between each). As the assembly spins, air is accelerated from the center down and out at an acute angle relative to the vertical axis, whereas the above ceiling fan example moves the air perpendicular to the rotation axis. I know it will blow air, but will it move enough to provide any useful thrust? 

Any thoughts?

Now if I could just get a hold of some graphene and aerogel lampshades to experiment with...

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Comment by Steve on November 16, 2012 at 3:55pm

Awesome! I need one of those to keep my flying car cool.


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Comment by R_Lefebvre on November 16, 2012 at 4:18pm

Yeah, the Coanda would be a huge hit on Halloween.  Or really, any time of year!

Comment by Dave C on November 16, 2012 at 5:06pm

Now what we have to ask ourselves is how, exactly, does Santa get up the chimney...

Comment by John Cousins on November 16, 2012 at 5:33pm

Very interesting... my only fear is the gyroscopic effect of spinning so much mass as such a high RPM. the bracing between each "disc" whould have to be extremely rigid!

 


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Comment by Joshua Ott on November 16, 2012 at 9:01pm

John, Thats why I need graphene!


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Comment by Joshua Ott on November 16, 2012 at 9:02pm

Forgot to add this to my last reply-

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Comment by John Cousins on November 16, 2012 at 9:10pm

Graphene.. Standby... googling now ;-)

 


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Comment by Joshua Ott on November 16, 2012 at 9:29pm

Graphene is the current holly grail of the material engineering nerd-dom

Comment by John Rambo on November 18, 2012 at 1:06pm

I've made lots of investigation last year on Tesla turbine design. The problem is an absence of scientific study on component placement (layer thickness, cross-layer gap, hole distance etc.). If brushless motors are known to reach 96% efficiency, TMs are (were) reported to reach 50%.


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Comment by Joshua Ott on November 18, 2012 at 6:41pm

John,

I found some references to research by Glenn A. Barlis, including a formula for calculating the disk gap.

Does this seem legit to you? I'm still digging, lot's of learning curve left for me.

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