Comment by Michael Winkler on October 26, 2010 at 2:32am

Despite of other people, for me, this is close enough for space. And this is a great project. And I appreciate the effort! SO whats the point in saying "hey this isnt space"? The jpoint in making down such an effort isnt a hunt for exactness, the point is jealousy.

Comment by Albert Augustine on October 27, 2010 at 10:43am

thats it? my Civil air patrol flight is doing this! but we are using more than a used takeout container and an iphone
we are using a small lunch box and a digital camra instead if you would like to know more information about this contact Leslie Roblin he is a member on this site (name might be wrong if so search les and click on simular name)
for the civil air patrol if you would like to know more go to are website: and also if you look around you will find Mr.Roblin there to along with me

Comment by Albert Augustine on October 27, 2010 at 10:45am

oh and we are sending it up to the same hight as this one

Comment by Krzysztof Bosak on October 27, 2010 at 11:36am

"The jpoint in making down such an effort isnt a hunt for exactness, the point is jealousy. "
I am rooting the lack of comparative knowledge until it grows to ignorance.

The fact I am not submarine commander doesn't means I cannot tell submarine from missile cruiser.
And it doesn't mean I am jealous of somebodys spending one third of his life in a steel can.
I believe making false titles is hurting people doing real progress. Putting astrounauts and sunday balooners in the same group is bordering with ignorance, to put it more clear.
The problem with space is, for example, if a force is imbalanced, you can spin arbitrarily fast, decomposing all onboard electronics. This isn't even a problem for balloneers, they just drop something in temperature-stabilised box and the main problem is finding it based on dying beacon modem.

The guy did an impressive achievement compared to somebody sitting in front of TV, but is nothing compared to what Albatross High Altitude Glider did a few years ago.
He didn't titled his work 'look we are touching space'.
http://members.shaw.ca/sonde/

Comment by Michael Winkler on October 28, 2010 at 12:03am

...then you probably want see *this* one as a father's project with his son?

Comment by Krzysztof Bosak on October 28, 2010 at 4:56am

No, I see this as a project of a student that is not even a father yet.

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