Arducopter with 8 Motors - Crash, Rebuild and First Flights

Here is video of first flights with the new lighter Hashcopter. PIDs make it a bit agressive and unstable because of reduced weight. Also you can see the massive camera flying with the copter.

Story goes like this:

I had a bad crash after few hours of flight time with Hashcopter. Crash was caused by flying the battery too empty and one off the ESCs cutting power off. The copter is capable of landing with 7 motors but I made a mistake flying to the direction of the broken motor to get it closer to pilot. This caused it to lean on the corner with no power and from that it couldn't recover, flipped and crashed from 20 meter height. Frame bent badly and one of the motors was never found. Fortunately most of the electronics survived from the crash. Lost only two motors and one ESC.

For some time had been thinking how I would change things if starting to build the frame from scratch. This was the perfect excuse to start all over again. So here are the changes made to totally the new frame:

- Used 10x10mm tubing with 1mm wall thickness. This saved 160g of the frame weight and frame is still strong enough for all practical purpose.

- None of the wiring anymore goes inside the tubing. These things are always being repaired and taken apart for some purpose. I don't want to do any extra soldering just because I need to get something detached from the frame.

- Made much lighter landing gear from 6mm aluminium tubing. Saved 60g from that.

- Built really simple Camera mount with no servos from 6mm tubing. I take only still images and usually the camera stays in one position or can be manually turned on ground.

Overall I got the whole copter over 400g lighter and that means minutes of more flight time. Overall flight weight after lightening is still 2700g. This includes 730g of camera and 530g of battery.

 

And here is a nice sunset shot from repaired copter:

Earlier parts of the story:

http://www.diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/arducopter-with-8-motors

http://www.diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/weight-testing-of-8-motor

http://www.diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/arducopter-quad-with-eight

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Tags: Arducopter, Ardupirates, Hashcopter, Octocopter, Oktocopter, Oktokopter, camera, flying, mikrokopter

Comment by Squalish on March 30, 2011 at 10:48am

Three items:

*A streamlined foam aeroshell for the 1cm tubing could hold wires, and be rubber-banded closed.  Square tubing is really not aerodynamic, and is probably a significant efficiency loss from prop wash turbulence.  I do agree that thick, thin-walled tubing is the way to go for rigidity - tensile strength is already overkill.

 

*Would it be feasible to make a hashcopter with every other motor turned downwards?  It would change how the prop wash interactions occur over a coaxial arrangement(for the better?), and allow for bigger props.

 

*I understand that you're on snow right now, but flexible landing gear really helps on hard surfaces - the 'Flexlander' ones we're using from Mikrokopter store two or three feet of freefall energy, and bounce that far back after a hard landing.  They're hard to break, and not very heavy.

Comment by Markus Jahn on March 30, 2011 at 11:27am

@I.S.

I fly my batteries to 3.7V-3.8V per cell. I have 1000Watts of motors which propably take about 600W-700W when flying. I have always thought that that can temporarily lower the voltage quite much with empty Lipo. I just bought low voltage buzzer so I will hear if voltage goes below 3.3V.

 

@Squalish

I have also wondered why nobody has built EPP or EPO quadcopter. It would be lighter than aluminium and stronger than the plywood frames.

It seems you don't wan't props overlapping each other. I was told it makes copter terribly unstable. What it causes to half the props in different level would be interesting to try. I think it wouldn't have any remarkable effect because I already have such big gaps between props.

Please don't say anything good about MKs Flexlanders. Been there broken those. My current legs can withstand dropping from at least twice the height than those crappy plastic landing gears. I actually wanted them to not flex much so they take the hit instead of the camera hitting the ground first on crash. By the way I can make 40 new legs for my copter with the price of one Flexlander XL.


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Comment by Adam Rivera on June 29, 2011 at 7:26am
Does anyone know if the Ardupirates Oktocopter code will support 8 independent motor channels?

Developer
Comment by Adam Rivera on June 29, 2011 at 7:33am
Is it really a disadvantage to run 4 channels with y-harnesses?

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