So after much reading and research into the whole "backup" BEC saga. I think I've found a solution!

My first idea was just to run a 5.5v backup lipo in parallel with the 5v UBEC output.
This idea has been vitoed by most. Too many unknowns apparently.
The other was to parallel all the BECs up, but this would cause harmonics due to all the square wave interaction.

So I figured we cant mix power supplies. Other than using a microproccessor controlled mosfet to switch
power supplies when and if the bec dies.

We use a relay :) Bear with me.

The main power supply powers the relay. With the relay closed (NO) power is routed via the bec to the apm.
If the bec fails, the power to the relay fails and is switched to the auxillary power supply (battery or another bec)

This completely seperates the two power sources.

Will the relay be able to switch fast enough to the auxillary power source without the APM losing power?
If not, im sure a power capacitor will keep the APM alive long enough for the bi-pass surgery to take effect?

Above is a recording of the ciruit just in case my explaining skills are dodgy :)

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Comment by Gustav Kuhn on January 12, 2012 at 11:40pm

Ah, but you also draw nice pictures:-)

Yes, that is what is in my pictures, just remember that you would want to fit a 6800uF10V capacitor either on the receiver, or the APM.

I use a replacement servo pigtail soldered.......

Easier like this :-)

Comment by Gareth Rens on January 13, 2012 at 12:14am

Gustav: I draw the digrams on circuit wizard, great for quickly drawing diagrams, sh*t for everything else.

Its quicker and easier than isis or eagle.

The above cap, is it for smoothing or something else?

Comment by Gustav Kuhn on January 13, 2012 at 12:42am

No, not smoothing as such.

It is more like a short term backup battery:-)

It lowers the perceived impedance of the BEC's.

But it will smooth out small spikes coming from the BEC's too.

Cheap, easy extra insurance.

What a lot of people don't know, is that you should use electrolytics fairly near their rated voltage, to get the best performance out of them.

I would have liked to use 6V units, couldn't source any locally.

Comment by Gareth Rens on January 13, 2012 at 1:19am

10-4!

Agree with you on the cap rated voltage!

6.3v 6800uF: http://www.mantech.co.za/ProductInfo.aspx?Item=14M3873

:)

Comment by Gustav Kuhn on January 13, 2012 at 1:31am

Hah, ANOTHER Sefrican on this list!

Thanks for the heads-up, we have a branch in Cape Town.......

Comment by Gareth Rens on January 13, 2012 at 1:37am

lol, i thought you knew i was "African" :)

Comment by Gustav Kuhn on January 13, 2012 at 1:58am

Mmm, maybe it is time to organize an away weekend (long), for all of us "African Drones", compare notes, fly, crash, show off, and generally have a good time :-)

Obviously I would like that at my home field!

Comment by Gustav Kuhn on January 13, 2012 at 2:03am

OR, make that a subdivision of say, the Robertson Fly-in next year, full size runway, camping facilities, many B+B's, out of controlled airspace, farmland, I for sure will be there.

Comment by Gareth Rens on January 13, 2012 at 2:20am

That sounds like a plan :)

Comment by Johann Van Niekerk on January 13, 2012 at 4:22am

Question :   why do you want a backup system on your APM  ? if you doing this on a copter for battery power for motors long before you kill a 850Mah battery on a APM  running APM from same battery then get other battery

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