Comment by Brian Perkins on June 5, 2012 at 6:19pm

The APC is in the mail.  I was using the current prop as a placeholder.

I've also played with Gorilla glue after reading about epoxy concerns.  I have non adhesive backed velcro on hand and nothing seems to work all that well to stick it to the EPO.  Gorilla glue might be the best by a small margin, though I think that roughing up the EPO surface may make a bigger difference than the type of glue.

Comment by Michael Pursifull on June 5, 2012 at 6:22pm

With gorilla glue, always use water and pressure. It will bind without either, but adding both will significantly increase the bond.

Comment by David M Eno on June 5, 2012 at 7:27pm

http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?6044-Darker-s-Eagletree-FPV...

This a build log i put up yesterday.  Have a look.   

Comment by Rana on June 6, 2012 at 1:32am

Nice build ! Never keep the antenna, horizontal, this I am saying from my experience.

Comment by Dries Raymaekers on June 6, 2012 at 3:35am

Good tips already given .. maybe you want to move the ESC to the outside for cooling down better. Also, I installed the APM at the bottom of the electronic chassis, so it is better protected.

Comment by Marooned on June 6, 2012 at 5:40am

I'm waiting for my Bixler and found this page with huge list of modifications. Check it out if you haven't done that yet.

As for wing attachment. Check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgLPARhEbD0 - skip to 4:14. He used velcro for that - it seem to me quite nice idea.

Comment by Todd Hill on June 6, 2012 at 5:42am

Small amounts of thin CA glue with pressure and accelerator work best for EPO hands down.  You have a mishap at the field (cracked or broken EPO) Gorilla glue wont get you back in the air the same day.  Epoxy does not bond well at all to EPO, so don't even use it.  if the epoxy isn't UV resistant it wont take long for it to degrade after setting outside under the sun at your flying field.  When using CA with EPO  you can first rough the surfaces with fine grit sand paper before gluing.  I have used Gorilla and Epoxy on EPOs' before, and both will give easily with relatively small amounts of force.  I will say Gorilla does hold better than the epoxy.

I suggest using tape for your wings.  You can spend countless hours setting up and detailing your aircraft, and then see it all go to pieces after your first few flights.  Make sure the hardware is set up and configured properly first.  Tape the wings for now, go fly some and tune your hardware if needed.  The whole point of this hobby is to do it on the cheap.  

Comment by Mark Bolton on June 6, 2012 at 8:34am

Dear Brian, congrats on the new build, it build looks great. You seem to have picked up most of the best tips here and from the link. I will let others argue the toss on best glues - I use all of the them! A couple of other points that might be useful:

- I cant say I saw a comment from you on upgrading the spar as well? I have found the hooks (which are very good) are not enough on their own.
- a strip of reinforced tape along the spar join (lost a super strong Bixler build on Sunday when the spar popped.
- a second strip all along the underside of the wing just behind the leading edge adds a lot of stiffness, particularly towards the wing tip.
- couple of circles of tape around the fuse.

I have also taken to using the engine mount on ebay - lots of fun with different motors and props.

Let us know how you go!

Comment by Brian Perkins on June 6, 2012 at 2:21pm

I noticed the kite stores stock solid fiberglass spars.  Has anyone tried this as a replacement?

I see some people claim non foam safe CA works with EPO.  True of false?

I tried a bit of plain old superglue as a test and didn't notice any melting or anything.

Comment by Todd Hill on June 6, 2012 at 2:36pm

Don't use foam safe, won't work.  Use regular thin CA with some CA accelerator.  There are certain types of polyeurathane glues that will melt the foam.  Firmly press together the parts to be glued, then hit the seam with some thin CA.  The CA will wick itself into the seam.  You can hit it with a "small" amount of accelerator before you let go of the pieces.  In the matter of seconds you will have a super strong bond.  Careful not to get the CA on your hands, it can burn you if you hit it with the accelerator.  Good Luck:)

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