3 Axis Brushless GIMBAL system & Steadicam for Pro Users ARDUCOPTER, Hoverfly, CINESTAR,

Hello,

I like to announce THE NEW  3 Axis, brushless Gimbal, 4mm thick plates, 25mm tube, 3k Carbon fiber, & steadycam all in one, to the market. Before the well known established companies like Hoverfly & CINESTAR, that is affordable for professional enthusiast.  We have produced with 4mm thick CF new style joints. This product transforms, comes in handheld & Copter configurations. We supply all the parts for attaching to copter with landing gear . Or if you choose you can use it as a steadicam. 

Currently there are no 3-axis brushless controllers on the market . There are plans in the works, but or best bet is the open source gimbal members of this community are working on. This help things along so we do not need to use 2 brushless controllers at the same time to achieve 3-axis controle, we would have beaten the big commercial  guy to market. Just like to say keep up the good work on innovating new hardware solutions.  

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Comment by OG on June 5, 2013 at 3:32pm

Hello this is just a 3-axis brushless gimbal a professional one with handlebars.

hoverfly did not invent it! they just decide to make a product & give it a name and charge too much! it is impresiv how marketing pulls in the un enlightened.  The cost is because of the 3mm thick carbon fiber. for now there is no other on the market. If you wanted to get picky you could use DJI brushless controller. Yes I do have access to good amount of open source brushless controllers I am sell for the lowest price on the web.   to it will carry 20lb ! just because Sum FILM Snobs put a fancy name on it does not make it a product real here it is. the controler is open source!

The source code: 
http://code.google.com/p/brushless-gimbal/downloads/detail?name=_04... 

Comment by Jared S on June 5, 2013 at 4:08pm

Thanks for sharing. Certainly impressive (along with other 3 axis posted recently) and increases shot quality at a much lower price compared to a Steadicam. But IMO it isn't a Steadicam. The main feature of the Steadicam system is demonstrated by having the operator jump up and down but the camera remains stationary. You can't do that with a 3 axis rig. Is this cinema quality? I don't think so. X, Y, Z movement isn't smooth. Post process could smooth that out I guess. Stunning step forward? Oh yea! 

Comment by Jared S on June 5, 2013 at 4:10pm

I wonder how well combining the Steadicam arm and a gimbal like this would work. I bet it would look amazing.

Comment by Phil Ellerbroek on June 5, 2013 at 4:19pm

I concur with Jared's first comment about the up and down movement. I would like to see this unit with a DSLR and someone running with it. Also, I would want to see another camera capturing this from a 3rd person view. Lastly, I would want to see stabilized and non stabilized raw camera footage. Too much is being put online that is claiming to be raw unedited and unstabilized footage when in reality it has been stabilized. By seeing both before and after editing, that will serve as proof that this or any other handheld stabilizing unit is worth the investment. There was no up or down movement occured on the sample video because it was on a bike with a smooth bike path. Second, most bikes have thier own shock system to dampen any bouncing, and lastly the filmer was able to hold the camera by one hand, acting as a final dampner. These were pretty favorable conditions to eliminate the gimbal from facing any real testing. Thats why I like the Movi videos, because several of them involved someone quickly walking or running and thus facing up and down movement. This would also be the case on any multirotor during altitude change and wind conditions.

Phil

Comment by Monroe Lee King Jr. on June 5, 2013 at 4:25pm

@Phil you have some point. I'm not accusing of post stabilization. But it is not well known that post stabilization is used on a lot of these "Professional" gimbal videos. I'd like to see some pre and post stabilization done to show the good folks here what that does for your videos! It will help others make better videos :)   

Comment by Phil Ellerbroek on June 5, 2013 at 4:29pm

Agree. To be clear, I'm not accusing anyone here of that either. So many like myself who have spent $20K+ and on multirotors and first generation gimbals for aerial film are very sensitive to investing into the next technology of gimbals. It must be more proven this time around. Quality and ease of use is something that needs be enhanced.

 

Comment by Monroe Lee King Jr. on June 5, 2013 at 4:41pm

@Jared he is using his arm like a steadycam arm if you notice. That helps some for sure.

Comment by Jared S on June 5, 2013 at 5:10pm

@Monroe. Understood. My point is that you don't always have arms that are available to act 'like' a steadicam and arms will not work so well if he was running or jumping. It just won't replace all needs for steadicams. But I don't think anyone is making that claim.

Comment by OG on June 5, 2013 at 5:11pm

here is the guy! who thought it all up. What do you think?

Comment by Phil Ellerbroek on June 5, 2013 at 5:22pm

Nice video but there's a problem. You can hear the motors in the mic quite bad (cogging is the cause). Read the above link on cogging. It is the "skuffing" sound you hear the entire movie. It appears to be just the GH3 internal mic being used. If you add a quality shotgun mic it is only bound to inrease in captured noise. If you read most initial posts on the MOVI, this was the main concern.  This will be fine for multrotors, but not for the hand camera use. However, the second you put a full frame SLR on there, those motors are going to much louder because they are working harder to move a heavier camera, and this will in turn make even more noise. Think of a servo controlled lens on a SLR. You can hear this same noise when the lens is filming in auto focus mode. It is the reason by Canon came up with lenses like this one aren't good for video filming... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n28wrNxJh0M

This noise issue will be huge for any serious film maker.

Phil

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