APM-powered hexacopter project on Kickstarter

Very impressive design and what looks like top-quality components. [UPDATE: It appears to be a stock Xaircraft frame that costs $160. Thanks to the commenters for catching this]. You can back the project here ($999 for the copter, $1,499 for the full deal with APM 2)

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Comment by Sandro Benigno on January 22, 2012 at 2:28am

@Ellison, that's the problem: Watch their video and read all the scope of their project trying to found those infos. Just the hidden FAQ has a shadow of those important notes. Much probably if they were not so ambiguous the polemic would not exist. I hope they could edit the post and video to clarify they're acting as qualified distribution and consulting of third parts.

Anyway, think with me... if you want to sell it to non skilled guys, the first thing to do is sell it assembled and tested like JDrones, 3DRobotics and UDrones do. That makes real difference and quickly justifies the cost.

Well, that's just my opinion. I hope they can make their customers happy by truly personal service, assistance and support so, their project will be successful. I wish them sincere good luck.


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Comment by John Arne Birkeland on January 22, 2012 at 6:07am

Nothing wrong with building and selling a multicopter kit using Xaircraft frames and APM hardware at whatever price someone is willing to pay for it. The problem is when the KickStarter system is misused to finance getting the parts to build the already designed kits.

Comment by Ellison Chan on January 22, 2012 at 8:49am

Ok, here's the shopping cart for what this Octocopter will cost if I decided to build one, using her list.

I used the most expensive motors available at HK and slightly over spec ESCs.  I lumped the spare parts, end user shipping, and value added into one item. which ends up to be $275.19.    Assuming that shipping to end user is included in the $1499 price, this doesn't leave much room for profit, and I didn't factor in any taxes or duties.

Maybe if she uses cheaper motors, and ESCs they can squeeze another $100 or so out of this.  I'd say net profit is realistically going to be about $100-$150 per kit.  Not that outrageous.

Comment by Ellison Chan on January 22, 2012 at 8:49am
  Unit Cost Quantity Net Shipping
Xaricraft Frame $183.00 1 $183.00 $0.00
Quad Power Distribution Board $15.00 2 $30.00 $0.00
APC11x47 Propellers $8.00 4 $32.00 $0.00
APM2 $199.00 1 $199.00 $29.25
Nanotech 4s - 6A $51.47 1 $51.47 $0.00
HobbyKing 4B6 Balance Charger Plus Accessories (200W) $74.99 1 $74.99 $0.00
Lithium Polymer Charge Pack 25x33cm JUMBO Sack $2.73 1 $2.73 $0.00
Hoffman Magnetics 860kv Motors (Expensive) $52.76 8 $422.08 $0.00
Hobby King 60A ESC 4A UBEC $17.60 8 $140.80 $58.49
SUBTOTAL     $1,136.07 $87.74
Spares kit +Wire+Shipping to End User+Value Added
Comment by Ellison Chan on January 22, 2012 at 8:50am

Oops, table got truncated:

Spares kit +Wire+Shipping to End User+Value Added $275.19
TOTAL $1,499.00
Comment by Ellison Chan on January 22, 2012 at 8:52am

Oh, and it seems that Kickstarter will take 10% off the top.


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Comment by Sandro Benigno on January 22, 2012 at 8:59am

@Elison: just a note: You're showing a "octo-list" to build an hexacopter.


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Comment by Rob_Lefebvre on January 22, 2012 at 9:00am

Good analysis Ellison.  But why are you assuming $52 motors?  That's nuts.  I searched for the quoted HQ35W motors and found nothing.  Could be anything.

Comment by T. CHOICE on January 22, 2012 at 9:01am

I saw the video , looks like  rehashed  video's we have all seen before, just thrown together .any of us on diy drones can offer a "off the shelf multicopter" and make a profit..I think it is wrong that someone can just post a frame and electronics that someone else spent time and money designing and get money , basically no effort on her part on the designing and tooling 

Comment by Ellison Chan on January 22, 2012 at 9:02am

Oops, I've got Octo on my brain. Guess what I'm planning to build soon.

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