Comment by bGatti on November 11, 2010 at 9:00am

Hmm. I develop in .net and so many people do, if this were an unavoidable consequence, I really do think the community would be as up in arms as you are. I was aware that .net can be decompiled into a kind of cryptic pseudo-code, but I've never heard that it pops right open in this fashion.

I would suggest, pending correction, that one might have checked off the "include source code" option in the installer for example. As a practical matter, if there are options to include source code or not, and source code was apparently included, Occam's razer (that's his cellphone) is shall we say /leaning/ towards an inadvertent source code mirroring strategy :)

But take heart, plant the project - with your name on it - and people will push it forward...

Comment by Paul Mather on November 11, 2010 at 9:07am

Nope. No "include source code" unless it's something I'm missing in the Project Properties. There is no installer, just the executable so that can't be it.

Comment by Sys-Ak on November 11, 2010 at 9:17am

I'm sorry to read this post, you've made many fantastic and useful programs in the past few years. I hope you won't give up everything because of this mishap. There must be a solution to build a program without the source included. Nobody would develop a commercial product in .NET in this case.

Comment by Justin Wilson on November 11, 2010 at 9:17am

Hey Happy,

Saw your post ON RGC and the idiots post about your code which rather anoyed me in all.
They only real way you can stop (really only slow them down) people from reverse engineering your code in .Net is to obfusciate it etc.
Visual Studio comes with a free community edition of an Obfusciater but it’s a bit naff.
At the offce we use .Net Reactor http://www.eziriz.com/ and hide our spagetti from the great unwashed….
It is quite frightening how easy it is to see .Net source via the likes of .Net Reflector…..

Comment by Paul Mather on November 11, 2010 at 9:26am

Thanks guys. Justin, I just download .Net Reflector just minutes before I read your post... it's all there. Plain as day. All my .NET source just hanging in the breeze. This was a valuable lesson for me. There's no way in hell I'm developing anything commercially in .NET.

3D Robotics Comment by Chris Anderson on November 11, 2010 at 9:35am

Happy: that sucks, clear and simple. If he took your IP and removed your name, I'd think you'd have a good case for a DMCA takedown. Here's the template you should edit and send to Jim here.

========== BEGIN SAMPLE DMCA TAKEDOWN NOTICE ==========
Attn: Jim Bourke, RC Groups
Pursuant to 17 USC 512(c)(3)(A), this communication serves as a
statement that: (1). I am [the exclusive rights holder | the duly authorized
representative of the exclusive rights holder] for [title of copyrighted
material being infringed upon, along with any identifying material such
as ISBNs, publication dates, etc -- or, if the material is a web page, the
URL];
(2). These exclusive rights are being violated by material available upon your site at the following URL(s): [URLs of infringing material]; (3) I have a good faith belief that the use of this material in such a
fashion is not authorized by the copyright holder, the copyright
holder's agent, or the law;
(4) Under penalty of perjury in a United States court of law, I state that
the information contained in this notification is accurate, and that I am
authorized to act on the behalf of the exclusive rights holder for the
material in question;
(5) I may be contacted by the following methods (include all): [physical address, telephone number, and email address]; I hereby request that you remove or disable access to this material as it appears on your service in as expedient a fashion as possible. Thank you for your kind cooperation.

Regards, [your full legal name]

Comment by Justin Wilson on November 11, 2010 at 9:37am

Alot of commercial apps are now being written in .Net you just need to Obfusciate...Run your code thru the likes of .Net Reactor and .Net Reflector wont even open your dll's..
Happy dont give in to knob ends like Entens and keep your project going - He's just a sad little individual sitting in a dark corner thinking he is clever..
Cheers Justin

Comment by Paul Mather on November 11, 2010 at 9:42am

Chris, I think I'd be hard pressed to make a claim like this when I am using other people's source (currently un attributed other than in the code itself). The instruments and 3D models most notably.

Justin, he IS clever. I just can't believe it only took 4 hours for him to find it, disassemble it and post the source code. That's just amazing.

Comment by Justin Wilson on November 11, 2010 at 9:46am

I dont have a problem with people (i do it myself) using other peoples source, its how we learn. What i have a problem with is spouting has mouth off about other peoples bad code etc....An no he is NOT cleaver just click the Export button in .Net Reflector - it creates all the files for you, now thats scary.

Comment by Paul Mather on November 11, 2010 at 9:51am

Sheesh... I figured there might be some commercial value in the parsing routines....maybe.... but I guess that's out the window.

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