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  • Not the same. Its their product. You can choose from a few dozen different smart phones, not just Aplle.

    Now image that the Govt said only Apple phones can be used in the USA. Now you have an idea of what the AMA proposed to the FAA.

  • Yes, at least for all the software used on the iphone/ipad products(basically computer software for tiny computers)

  • Apple is a regulatory body?
  • "Want Microsoft to be the regulatory agency for computer software in the USA too?"

     

    The funny thing is Apple has somehow pulled that off!

     

  • One of the AMA recommendations to the FAA was precisely to eliminate all flyig for non-AMA members (top of page six of released ARC document). Even giving the AMA self regulatory powers would be like saying the NRA can make their own laws for their members. Also, there is competion in insurnce companies for autos and houses. There is no other alternative for the AMA by the FAA and AMA's own adnition they are the only recognized organization. There are many other orgs but the FAA does not (and probably will never) recognize them. The AMA already has too much power over the hobby, please don't give them any more. If anything tell them to be either an NPO or an insurance broker but not both. Want Microsoft to be the regulatory agency for computer software in the USA too? Makes as much sense to me.

    No good can come from giving law making powers to a handful of people who are not elected by the people, IMHO this could become a matter of constitutional rights.

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    RTL would have to be proven to work everytime, by proven I mean tested professionally to the satisfaction of the FAA and that would cost a fortune. You can't just say it works. Bang goes any modification to code then as well. Two organisations exhist that might help, RCAPA and AUVSI. This issue has been spoken about since before DIYD started. The thing that saddens me is that sUAS proponants are going to be blamed for changes to the general hobby. Now who was it that said a couple of years ago new telemetry equipped TXs might be forced to make the models under their control go into failsafe if they detected 400' rule broken. I know how the replies go... No stinking FAA AUVSI RCAPA, park ranger is going to stop me flying my Easystar etc etc etc. Instead of lets all join an established organisation and through that lobby. Heck even the AMA and make sure they hear. Perhaps I have woken up on the wrong side of the bed!
  • I'm not sure that comparing the NRA to the AMA would be correct. From what I've seen so far at least, the FAA is not saying that non-ama members will be denied the right to fly. There will be regulations or course, but I do not think the AMA will be mandatory by any means Insurance may be manditory, but is that a bad thing? We already have to get insurance on our cars(at least liability), and most purchase insurance on many other things.. I believe organizations like the AMA are a good thing, but I also think that the AMA is shutting out things that are good. (FPV, UAV)

     

    For instance in this webinar, the AMA mentions that one FAA concern is what happens if a model loses contact with the tx. Well, no one has yet to mention that the hardware/software available on this site could return your model to home and prevent a possible accident compared to a model without this equipment. This should be a big arguement for pro-autonomous technology and I think the members of this site will need to come together to make this arguement heard when the time comes.

     

     

  • My problem is that by the rationale for establishing the AMA as a pseudo-regulatory body is the sane as allowing the NRA full BATF power and making NRA members immune from all gun regulations while denying non-NRA members access to even BB guns.

    Not a good idea to giving a private organization the power of government.

    Actually, if the FAA cared what the AMA thinks they could bypass the AMA and contact the insurance company. The insurance company is the one dictating everything to the AMA. All the AMA does is whatever the insurance company says is OK and banning anything the insurance company says it won't cover.

     

  • The only reason the AMA has any power is because they took the intiative to attempt to make an organization to regulate RC(at least for their members) as well as provide insurance. They are pretty much the only national organization who did that so the FAA is taking their input seriously because it has worked(but the normal flier like myself has had no accidents either without joinging the AMA)

     

     It does seem that the AMA doesn't want to adopt new technology though. But... I would like to mention that I called the AMA and they told me that FPV is fine as long as i'm connected through the trainer port to a buddy.

     A different AMA field(local) is very excited for me to finish my drone because they have never seen anything like it :).

     

    It depends on the field whether they stick to the rules or not i guess.

     

    I think the main thing we should focus on is the response period to the new laws. We could make a difference there.

     

    A new organization for FPV or UAV's wouldn't be a bad idea either, and there are many people on this site would would have the knowledge/drive to do it. If enough opinions are voiced and backed up by data then we have a good chance. Let's not let our hobby come to an end.

     

  • I am still an AMA member and am trying to start an AMA club at our school. I am trying to get the AMA back to what is was created for (IE: education and science) and am fully opposed to the AMA having any kind of pseudo-regulatory powers.

    Changing the AMA from within and without the AMA is what is needed IMHO.

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