Comment by Paul Mather on February 12, 2011 at 6:55am

I really hate to say it, but this is another bad decision by the Paparazzi team. They have added another 7% of computer users as potential customers.... if they had added Windows they would have added 80%+ as potential users.... Although goung from 1.5% of the userbase to 8.5% is an improvement...

Comment by MarcS on February 12, 2011 at 8:31am

Hi,

from a paparazzi users point of view, I´d like to say, that I did not get into the system because I knew Linux at that time. I started with Linux because of the system. And it´s by far the easiest part to install ubuntu when seeing the complete picture of getting a UAV into the air... If you don´t get that step I have to question your ambitions for the whole system. And you can even do it on a virtual system in windows, if you like...

In that sense I don´t see the meaning of "customers" in such kind of projects. It may be that other projects try to sell hardware first and then developing the code step by step (did not hear much about "open pilot" lately e.g.).

It´s just the different kind of people that are involved in a project. Paparazzi comes from a mostly research driven background which is until today the main user and developement group. That´s probably also one of the reasons why it´s not covered that often here...

Comment by brakar on February 12, 2011 at 9:08am

Every autopilot has its pros and cons. As far as I know, the paparazzi is the only open source autopilot that is matue enough to be used in professional application by commercial companies - and have been for years. Kind of speaks for itself in my view.

3D Robotics Comment by Chris Anderson on February 12, 2011 at 9:36am

brakar: agreed: Paparazzi is excellent. It's just a shame it hasn't taken off more outside of the pro (academic/research/company) world. Maybe OSX will help it regain some momentum.

Comment by Paul Mather on February 12, 2011 at 10:05am

I find it baffling how the academic community seems to be intentionally obtuse. We have a local school system that spent millions on buying every student in the school a Mac laptop. Here you go kids, you'll be totally prepared for 7% of the jobs out there!

 

By "customers" I mean "end-users." The people who are using the product they have created. Perhaps they meant to make something just for academics....which is why they would stick with the obscure OS'.

Comment by Ken on February 12, 2011 at 1:46pm

Happy,

 

What skill do you suppose that they will learn on these Macs that does not *instantly* transfer to MS Windows? 

 

What essential job skill do you suppose that they will not learn using a Mac?  How to install Norton Anti Virus? The latest first person shooter game?

 

MS Office runs on OS X. Web browsers work on OS X. Kids in schools are taught to create spreadsheets and resumes. Whether the close and minimize buttons are on the top left or right corner is not a job skill. Humans need to be adaptable; specialization is for insects.

 

Comment by Paul Mather on February 12, 2011 at 2:03pm

Humans should be trained on the system they will be using in real life. Not on a system built for desktop publishing and graphic design. If someone is taught in school to use Adobe Acrobat and are then expected to know how to use MS Word on the job, they will be completely lost...and vice versa.

 

What would be the point of teaching someone how to use a word processor from the Commodore 64? After all, it's a word processor, right? And they need to be adaptable... so here you go kid....you've been trained to use a word processor from 1983... you should be able to figure out MS Word.... time to adapt.

 

Windows is the world standard. Regardless of how loudly the Mac and Linux users yell, this isn't changing any time soon. To port from Linux to Mac before Windows is a decision that could only be made in academia.

 

I wish I could read more on the topic, but the link above says:

Error establishing a database connection

As does http://paparazziuav.org/

Comment by brakar on February 12, 2011 at 2:22pm

90% of the kids like hamburgers served in front of the TV better then fish and outdoor fun. Meaning ... ?
Let's face it, all here belong to a marginal interest group, even if some of us are more marginal then others.

Comment by David Conger on February 12, 2011 at 2:35pm

Another update. Windows is just around the corner and should be finished soon. Much of it is already running in Windows. The reasons for taking some time to do it right is that windows has issues and isn't the wonder OS some would make it out to be. Those working on it will get past those issues soon and the end result will be very seamless across all platforms. I believe Linux 64bit will be the next target after that. 

 

Comment by Paul Mather on February 12, 2011 at 2:39pm

That is great news about the Windows port!!!

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