Here's a video, of my stock DJI F450 frame quad tethered to a plywood slab in my basement - where I'm learning to fly in different orientations in stab mode. Tether saves me from heavy fingers while learning, simply too much blizzard outdoors to fly there these days,
The tether was nylon string attached to bottom of quad. I'm tuning the stock APM params now - so far, I've done these ,,,
Non-default PIDs I've changed so far
Once I can circumnavigate the plywood on the floor, stopping to hover over each corner for a few seconds - and I can do this in all 4 yaw orientations - without pulling the string taught - then I can untether the quad in my basement,
Here's a pic of my setup - stock DJI F450 frame, ESCs and motors; 3DR APM 2.5 with PM, 3DR sonar (mounted on balsa spanning two white arms - the front), Castle 10A BEC, a loud and visual low battery indicator, and a lot of hope. Using a 5800 3s Zippy LiPo - getting 20 min flights with this setup.
And here's my Z accel data ,,,
Comment by OlivierD. on February 2, 2013 at 10:00am Great setup Tim, seems like a good way to get some practice. What does the copter do when it reaches the end of the string, does it jerk and self-right immediately? I am worried it might freak out and crash no? Perhaps a piece of rubber band at the end of the string to dampen the shock when you hit the end of the rope?
Very impressed with the 20 min. flight time, that is amazing. Question: What do you use the BEC output for?
Regards,
Comment by Tim Green on February 2, 2013 at 10:25am
Comment by Neil Ohnemus on February 2, 2013 at 10:36am Nice Tim, you have inspired me.
I have some work to do getting my hex setup in the basement today!

4.5 is a good setting for this quad.
I would suggest tuning it on the string if you can. Most likely the rate_D is a little low and Rate P might not be exactly right.
I usually do a quick roll and level it to look for wobble, then adjust rate_P and raise rate_D until I tune it out.
Jason
Comment by Michael on February 2, 2013 at 11:30am Thanks for the idea! Probably eliminated a crash or fly away for me outside while tuning!
Comment by Tim Green on February 2, 2013 at 11:37am
Comment by Tim Green on February 2, 2013 at 11:38am
Comment by C. Escudero on February 2, 2013 at 12:26pm what motors and props are you using? I am buying the same frame. thank you
Comment by Tim Green on February 2, 2013 at 1:13pm
Comment by OlivierD. on February 3, 2013 at 2:04pm Cool! Great idea. I am building two separate quads and was wondering how I would tune them without breaking 20 props, scratching the furniture and risking all sorts of damage, this is a great way to check that the settings are good enough prior to heading out for good. Excellent work Tim!
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