Comment by Jack Crossfire on April 24, 2012 at 6:46pm

Got to keep the helicopter tour operators in business.

Developer Comment by Andreas M. Antonopoulos on April 24, 2012 at 7:05pm

Confiscated your SD cards? Umm, that's illegal. The police (or any LEO) do not have the power to deprive you of private property without due process...

Comment by trappy on April 24, 2012 at 7:10pm

Yes I know Andreas. We also got a ticket for a law we did not break. We are currently searching for a lawyer to help us press charges, but it's not easy especially if you're a broke student who made that trip on his last dime :)

Comment by Jonathan M on April 24, 2012 at 7:18pm

That doesn't sound legal.  I could see them asking you to stop, but taking your property?  Geez..

Hmm.. i am going there next week and was planning on bringing the quad.  I guess I will be careful.  Wasn't planning on running over the canyon anyway because something that big and deep is bound to be a magnet for my quad!

Distributor Comment by Dany Thivierge on April 24, 2012 at 7:36pm

Wow this is brief but you really need to turn on full 1080 HD to see how beautiful this place is. 

Nice video as usual, really sad that you lost your SD cards... he could have confiscated the planes and gear as well while at it!   Hope you fight it back and get them back... although they will probably wipe them clean just to piss you. 

What's next Trappy? are we done on the US tour? 

Comment by trappy on April 24, 2012 at 7:39pm

hehe no that's 12/13. the grand finale is next ... I think if you pin out the locations we've filmed so far this one will be very obvious. it's going to be a very celebrational video. after that we'll be doing thailand.

Developer Comment by Andreas M. Antonopoulos on April 24, 2012 at 7:53pm

trappy: don't bother with charges - it will be a massive waste of time. The cops don't care, they don't pay, we all do in our taxes. They wont get punished for something like this anyway. I'd suggest simply filing a written complaint with the Park Service. You should also, formally, ask for the return of your property or compensation.  A written demand sometimes works wonders. In any case, you want to document this incident. If there is ever an "audit", they see a pattern of behavior and can't say it is a "one off". 

Finally, send me a PM with a paypal address or a mailing address. I'd like to send you replacement SD cards or a tip for your lovely video, and so that I can have the satisfaction of knowing the fuzz did not win ;-) I can't stand authoritarian bullies, especially ones that break the laws they are supposed to uphold. 

Comment by trappy on April 24, 2012 at 7:57pm

thanks Andreas, I'm fine we get SD cards for free. It's the content that is worth a lot to us - not $ but in sentimental value. that morning flight was the most jaw-dropping flight I have done in my entire life. and I've done some very cool flights :)

the reason we are pressing charges is simply for fun. it costs me 5 mins to make a well-placed phone call, and it will cost the cops time, the NPS will need to make a statement, etc. etc. etc. I have cost them at least 50-60 hours already just by making random phone calls, writing written complaints to multiple addresses all over Arizona. A lot of my friends have done the same. This guy has never received so much sh*t for one action in his entire life, I'm very sure of that. Filing charges will be the icing on the cake. Who knows, maybe he gets a fine ... maybe he doesn't. I don't really care.

Developer Comment by Andreas M. Antonopoulos on April 24, 2012 at 8:09pm

oh on the AZ side? 

That's where Arpaio's turf is isn't it? The most lawless law department in the country. They are completely out of control. You're lucky they didn't shoot you for littering. 

Comment by trappy on April 24, 2012 at 8:12pm

yeah AZ side. pretty much my experience, yes. they admitted I didn't break any rules. "Come here and defend it" was what they said, knowing very well I live on the other side of the planet :)

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