After spending many hours troubleshooting and waiting days for responses from support I finally took back my first Solo the was eventually deemed defective by 3DR for a number of issues. It took another 2.5hrs at the retailer to perform the exchange and a 5 day wait with a 3 hour commute to pick up Solo #2 at the nearest retailer with inventory.
I will say that I was quite excited when unboxing #2 as the whole process was extremely smooth compare the previous one. in less then 10 minutes #2 was updated to 1.05 and fully calibrated. It had 12-13 satelites registered and locked in seconds from startup. #1 took a minimum of 4-5 minutes if I was lucky to lock 6 for auto fly. Not to mention the controller showed full bars for solo connectivity and telemtry readings in the app were dead on.
With such good flight conditions before packing up the kids in the car to head over the field I decided to take #2 up and down just to confirm flight first. here is #2's first flight video 10 mins from coming out of the box.
Solo - $999
Gimbal(still haven't recieved) - $399
GoPro 4blk - $499
Xtra batterys - $597
spare parts - $80
40+hrs invested in troubleshooting/support and exchange of 1st Solo - $3000
Capturing this majestic first flight on video - Priceless!
Why do some people think it is their mission to decide what is best for everyone else?
Yes Bob, you'll read it. You said the last post you weren't coming back.
Have you checked your Phantom 3 motor mounts for cracks? It may be a good idea. Youtube is chocked full of DJI crashes, flyaways and malfunctions. Do a search for "DJI crashes".....holy monopoly Batman!
I don't have a DJI, but know a few that do. They see all the options available and get overwhelmed; I explain you do have to understand what the parameters are and how they work before meddling with them. Then there are missions. You actually think DJI is out in front on this? Surely you jest.
Telemetry issues? Oh look! http://forum.dji.com/thread-12441-1-1.html
What I've found is most DJI pilots want something simple and don't want to have to know much about the flight controller. Arducopter requires the desire to do more, yet allows the pilot to keep things simple if they wish.
Nobody forced me to buy anything from 3DR.
Hi John, thanks for the very informative posts. I do always wonder why you get these trolls and fanboys spending all this time bashing the other side, I feel sorry they have nothing better to do with life..
This had the potential to be an interesting thread before it descended into playground arguments. It is becoming clear that the solo was released before it was ready and well tested which is a shame as it looks like in the long term it will be an awesome product. Constructive and honest feedback and criticism will help improve it and get where it needs to be.
If the log related this bad event is now analyzed, what was the real cause of this crash?
It seems that Solo has lost a motor.
Whaatttt?? I expected a video of the SOLO to be released soon on the stream of lead tester of APM:Copter, since I assume it's an Arducopter based product. It's actually on my wish list, looks so cool.
But, reading all this issues, maybe is not properly tuned/setup, taken into account even the fact that it's the first batch to be released.
It's such a shame to not have seen a real footage of the bird, pushed at its limits, as Robustini usually does when a new release of the FW is published. Furthermore, I can't really even understand what's behind such a business/political decision. Better to buy a PH3 , huh??
I would not mind being the lead tester on the solo.
POV from my face camera has made it very easy to prove machine malfunctions that are not caught in the log. I am on Iris #3 all due to machine failures.
There is something going on that is not being logged where the machine does not maintain altitude. Its not HDOP, Interferance, or anything else as the logs show that the machine is at an altitude much higher than it is in reality.
If I did not have a face camera and 2 cameras on the machine it would have been deemed human error.
To make these machines smart you will need to give them spacial awareness.
Until they get a "memory of space" they will not be smart.
I am not talking about current sensors, I am talking about machine vision; Structure from Motion from a nvidia jetson tk1 would be worth thinking about.
Or you could use Lidar...
But What do I know
I am a noviceHave a ludakris day.
Hi Mauro and Ferruccio, your post is very patriotic, to defend the italian flag, LOL! :p
Thanks anyway for your comment, i'm honored.
I'm not in the "Solo testers team" i think because is a commercial product, it follows the philosophy of the Phantom and similar "RTF" quad, then follows trade policies that deviate from the "open source concept".
So I think that 3DR has been provided some "paid testers" directly involved in the project that trying Solo before it was released.
I've always worked for "APM:Copter/Plane" code for passion, not for money.
I still see several crashes with the Solo that is flip to one side during hovering, and i don't understand what may depend.
I don't think that the users can change the stab/rate parameters to make it unstable, it seems to lose a motor (loses sync with ESC?) or propeller in flight, dunno, i don't know the flight characteristics of Solo because i've never tried.
Only 3DR support can give us a definite answer by analyzing the logs.
Marco, that's exactly what I meant. Apart from the "open" or "closed" point of view, now the tube is top up with videos published by end users, so (hope nobody get offended) people whose flying capabilities/knowledge of the system is not trusted at all. How can this cope with a "smart" advertising campaign?? At this point someone might ask, what have the "paid testers" been dicking around?? I wouldn't blame people moving around to other brands seeing these videos.
Kris, i agree, the future is this one, but with the current technology i think it's a little early.
I know some things and stuff.
Marco, His is under review today. Not a motor as upon piecing it together and 4 new props it flies.
I can tell you that since then, mine has again had its own issues. I will post them here for your review.
I am Not Pleased at all:
1st Event: 1.01 software took off in an open area of a yard, flew around hit RTH saw it was going the wrong way, back to fly moved it to the correct area manually, tried RTH again, wanted to go the wrong area again.
So I decide to land by just holding fly, well no one tells you that at 5-6% battery it does an auto RTH? So it takes off for a quick 40 ft run to where it has been trying to go all along into a tree top. I fought it and got it back but the props ticked the limbs of the tree before I got control back.
Ticket submitted and all they could say was you took off by a tree, uh no, no I didn't. Your GPS set the home point in the wrong area. upgrade to 1.05. Yeah for free props.
I'm sorry Chris for all your bad event.
Personally i'm not involved in the "Solo project", so i can only guess, i don't know this quad.
Surely the GoPro wifi can cause electromagnetic interference, especially with gps, i know really well this, so my wifi is always disabled! :)
The only thing i don't like is the gps location in that frame.
I'm sure that the testers have established this thing, and if they have only released for distribution will have it credited reliable.
One thing is certain: installing a lot of electronic component there're high chance that something goes wrong, it's the rule... ;)
I hope that all these problems are "software-only", with "APM:Copter" we have reached an incredible stability level, i can safely say much about this.
But the Solo code is an evolution of APM:Copter code, then i don't know nothing about this.
With all my "custom birds" i only have two crashes "out of control" (software problem) in tens of thousands of flights, this is a certain fact that i can give you...