I would like your help.  Safety is my number one issue with drones. Last year I was learning to fly my  Parrot AR. Drone that I had fitted with carbon fiber blades.  I was doing a simple take off and landing in the living room to impress a friend.  I was hovering and accidentally hit the "Home" button. Instead of a soft landing the AR Drone took off from a distance of about 10' from me and came right at my face.  As I was trying to deflect it, the carbon fiber blade put a gash on my left eye, just missing my eyeball.  I don't know about you, but that really soured my experience and nearly put out my eye. 

I had every intention of taking the money I had saved to start a Real Estate Photography company.  Instead I became afraid of the drone. A friend purchased a Phantom from DJI and had a very similar experience on his very first flight.

Oddly enough I became so fascinated with the industry that started to look for solutions to the danger of any multi-rotor with plastic or carbon fiber blades.  I came up with what I affectionately call DroneKone.  It is complete and substantial propeller protection to help make drones safer.

I started a small company with my limited funds and developed a model of my concept.  I was able to get a provisional patent on my safety device.  Then I had a devastating life event and was out of action for a year.  I have recovered.  I don't have any funding at this point except out of my pocket and started seeking funding. I was told by a potential investor that I needed to survey 100 people to find out if my product is market worthy.

Okay enough story.  Simple Survey for Safety:

  1. Yes or No  Are you concerned about drones flying around Children? 
  2. Yes or No  Do you have a concern about your personal safety when flying a drone?
  3. Yes or No  If a safety device was available would you consider purchasing it?
  4.                  What would a safety device look like to you if you could design one?
  5.                  How much would you pay for a safety cage if one was available when you purchase your drone.

I greatly appreciate you reading this far and ask for help.  If this is just plain stupid, then I would like to know that now, before I spend any money on moving further.

Thank you so much for listening.  I am grateful to be a small part of this awesome community.

bob

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I agree.

I feel you shouldn't ever allow the risk to develop in the first place. As long as you are using copters properly they're safe.

It's like using a gun, "guns don't kill people, people do". 

  1. Yes or No  Are you concerned about drones flying around Children?

Mostly no, I don't fly around kids. 

      2. Yes or No  Do you have a concern about your personal safety when flying a drone?

No for anything spinning 12" or under  plastic props. "Mostly no" for  larger propellers and carbon props. But I am always concerned about  the personal safety of other (adults), if around,  that I may no be able to control. Note : I approach flying larger copters like I'd approach flying  lawn mowers. That's what they are. Lots of separation, and  always ready to hit manual mode at the slightest "weird" flight behavior.

     3. Yes or No  If a safety device was available would you consider purchasing it?

Absolutely. Would have to be available for props in size 15" to 28"

    4. What would a safety device look like to you if you could design one?

Lots of designs around, google (image) prop guard. I'd go wire or thin carbon  lattice.

   5.                  How much would you pay for a safety cage if one was available when you purchase your drone.

Quite a bit. Rule of thumb: Light, strong, cheap: Pick any two. 

I'd pay good money for something that could protect 17-18" props if it was a reasonable compromise  between weight and strength. Say $100-$400. In addition to safety, I'm also interested in those because they'd allow me to fly closer to objects, without a crash due to  the slightest brush with a wall, branch, etc ...

James,

Excellent thoughts!  I never considered individual ducts that would attach to the quad motor mount.  I really like the 3D printer Quad called TurboThrust shown in your medium.jpg image.  If you had that kind of product available and would pay 25 per prop, then for a hex or octo you would pay 150 or 200 for safety in general.

Do you fly professionally?

I thank you for you insight about it being as much to protect the propellers from impact as it is protecting people from the propellers.  I agree, if everyone took adequate precautions safety would not have to be mandated.

Thank you so much for taking the time to add to my survey!

bob

safethedrones.com

Thank you for your reply. 3 down and 97 to go (surveys). 

Mike,

Good point.  Question have you done any estimating of what weight could be added to your Octocopter with 15" props without affecting performance.  In dealing with the issue of propeller protection added weight is the first concern, then performance of course. 


bob

Gary,

Would you mind responding to the survey?

bob

safethedrones.com

Huques,

Would you use a safety device if one was available?

  1. Yes or No  Are you concerned about drones flying around Children? 
  2. Yes or No  Do you have a concern about your personal safety when flying a drone?
  3. Yes or No  If a safety device was available would you consider purchasing it?
  4.                  What would a safety device look like to you if you could design one?
  5.                  How much would you pay for a safety cage if one was available when you purchase your drone.

Paul,

If a safety device had a autodeploying parachute and an air bag to protect from catastrophic failure in the sky, would you put it on your copter?

Please help me on the survey:

  1. Yes or No  Are you concerned about drones flying around Children? 
  2. Yes or No  Do you have a concern about your personal safety when flying a drone?
  3. Yes or No  If a safety device was available would you consider purchasing it?
  4.                  What would a safety device look like to you if you could design one?
  5.                  How much would you pay for a safety cage if one was available when you purchase your drone.

John,

Thank you for responding to the survey.  4 down and 96 to go.

Good point about the size of the copter you are flying is basically a flying lawn mower.  When treated with proper respect and care, we should never have to have safety devices.

15" to 28" props.  Wow that is a big copter.  Do you routinely use props larger than 15"? 

Thank you for the comment that you would pay for protection for the props if it met the weight vs. strength test.  We are looking in to a variety of materials even plastics covered with EPDM for cushion.

The prop guards that are out there detach to easily or break just by looking at them. We are looking to design complete and substantial propeller protection without adding weight the thrust on the motors cannot handle.

Again Thanks.

bob

safethedrones.com

Gary,

Good thoughts.  Much appreciated.  Would you please respond to our survey questions?

  1. Yes or No  Are you concerned about drones flying around Children? 
  2. Yes or No  Do you have a concern about your personal safety when flying a drone?
  3. Yes or No  If a safety device was available would you consider purchasing it?
  4.                  What would a safety device look like to you if you could design one?
  5.                  How much would you pay for a safety cage if one was available when you purchase your drone.
  1. Yes   Drones or any other dangerous thing needs to be a safe distance away from children.
  2. No    I have safety concerns but I lessen the risks by following the operating tips and guides found on this site and others.
  3. Yes and No  I could create prop guards for my 18" propellers not for safety but to avoid propeller damage. I use quality wooden propellers which to my surprise work great and cheap.
  4. I would create but would not buy either a ring that surrounds the propeller but Ideally I would just have straight tubes that project slightly beyond the reach of the propeller perhaps in a V shape. This would protect the prop when I perform a poor landing. All my prop breaks are from the Octocopter tipping over slowly.
  5.  My 18X6.1 wood props are 25 bucks a pair so I doubt it would be worth buying props guards unfortunately and I think damage is inevitable even with prop guards.

Ron,

Thank you for your reply. Propeller breakage is your main concern.  You are right a safety cover for an octo with 18" blades would be large and hard to control.  It gives me food for thought.

bob

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I'm not sure where to answer the survey so I'll just answer it here.
1. no, I would not be concerned about drones flying around children as long as the person knows how to fly
2. I don't really feel any concerns of my personal safety when flying a drone really.
3. I think it would depend on me buying it on what it looks like, how affective it is and what type of drones if can be put on. A lot of drones come with propellor guards unless you make your own.

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