Top 10 Myth's & Misconceptions about FAA Part 107

Now that the Section 333 is getting close to phasing out for most, Adam from Aeroworks talks about the Top 10 myth's and misconceptions about operating as a Part 107 Remote Pilot.

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Comment by Nikola Rabchevsky on January 27, 2017 at 9:21am

To date, nobody has explained to my satisfaction where all-volunteer, non-profit 501(c)3 search & rescue falls as far as the FAA is concerned.  In this video, they talk about commercial vs. hobby and say that if you are benefiting financially from flying even if indirectly, it's commercial.  Well, in the case of flying for search & rescue as a member of a 501(c)3 organization, you wouldn't be benefiting financially so it would seem not to fit into the FAA's definition of commercial activity.  But the FAA does list search & rescue in the scope of Part 107.

Comment by AKRCGUY on January 27, 2017 at 9:25am
The FAA see's SAR as Commercial because as they described it to me you are not doing it for pleasure therefore you need at minimum a 107 and for night operations a night waiver.
Comment by SkyRover on January 27, 2017 at 12:13pm

I'd like to know what they define as pleasure then. I volunteer for sar for a hobby. I do it because I enjoy it, not because I'm compensated or required to.

Comment by AKRCGUY on January 27, 2017 at 12:33pm
Take it from someone who was contacted by the FAA using that theory, it doesn't work.
Comment by Tony Kenward on January 27, 2017 at 4:37pm

Nikola / AKRCGUY . . . 

as a "member of a 501(c)3 organization", are you able to operate under the requirements of a 'Public Aircraft Operation' ?

See here for more guidance:

Comment by AKRCGUY on January 27, 2017 at 4:41pm

Correct with a Public COA but not as a hobbyist.

Comment by Tony Kenward on January 27, 2017 at 4:44pm

a "SAR hobbyist".   Hmmmmm.

I am confused now.  Can you expound upon that a bit? . . .

Comment by AKRCGUY on January 27, 2017 at 4:46pm

The point posed above was that is was dumb and you should be able to fly without a 107 essentially as a hobbyist for SAR since you are not receiving any money for the operation.  My statement was that the FAA does not see SAR as a "hobbyist" activity therefore a 107 or COA is required.

Comment by Tony Kenward on January 27, 2017 at 4:55pm

I concur with that assessment by the FAA

SAR is not a 'hobby'.  Any lost person search effort should be coordinated by a public governmental entity tasked for that responsibility; i.e., fire dept, police dept, parks services.  The onsite search coordinator would have obtained PAO status for any volunteer flights;  could be heli or UAV.   That person will also verify any training and airworthiness requirements appropriate for that search scenario, based on varying parameters.

Ppl showing up with their new Phantoms in tow, wanting to help is commendable, but not helpful.

My 2 cents, but I am not a highly paid lawyer.

Comment by AKRCGUY on January 27, 2017 at 4:58pm

100% agree and I never said hobbyist should show up at SAR sites.  We discussed this here-


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