T3 Comment by Krzysztof Bosak on November 29, 2009 at 4:09pm

"Maybe UNAV could sell Ardupilot's as well!
They could remove half of the features and sell it for $3,500 :)"
Sorry this is completely biased bashing.
Misinforming. Unjustified. Plain wrong. Ardupilot is nowhere near working IMU autopilot with user's manual WITH camera stabilization and data logging - and this is what UNAV3500 has.
Has any Ardupilot flown in major university UAV contest? UNAV did it.
As for now, they are different league of technical capabilities.

Comment by Jeff Taylor on November 29, 2009 at 4:39pm

The RC Groups UAV forum is depressing in general. It seems like half the posts are there to discourage others from trying anything themselves.

I can't blame UNAV for selling their AP for $3500.. it's probably working pretty well for them. They shouldn't post about its features or price on an R/C forum though as it takes away from the luster of a 'premium' autopilot.

3D Robotics Comment by Chris Anderson on November 29, 2009 at 5:34pm

Krzysztof, you're right about ArduPilot not being in the UNAV3500's league (although it's far better than the Picopilot, which is what the offending RC Groups thread was about), but you're wrong about the manual. It does exist and is up to industry norms, if I do say so myself ;-)

Comment by Scott James on November 29, 2009 at 5:52pm

Krzysztof, ":)" means it is a joke and not serious.

T3 Comment by Krzysztof Bosak on November 29, 2009 at 6:12pm

"It does exist and is up to industry norms, if I do say so myself ;-)"
+10 points.

Comment by Curt Olson on November 29, 2009 at 6:48pm

Maybe UNAV could sell Ardupilot's as well! They could remove half of the features and sell it for $3,500 :)

If it came out of the box ready to fly (with all the soldering and cabling taken care of and all the firmware/software compiled and configured and loaded) and then if they offered their vaunted end user support for it, they just might have a winning combination there. :-)

Moderator Comment by Sgt Ric on November 29, 2009 at 9:36pm

I can't believe the arrogance of John Suggs.

His first time on rcgroups and he comes out swinging in a terribly amateurish way.
But then again his attitude is inline with the UNAV reputation.

He is now involved with a company know for it's rudeness toward the hobbiest and goes on to lambaste a well respected, world renowned personality like Chris Anderson.

Chris is currently involved in several fronts at once, only one of which is leading the DIYDrones community in the quest for open source educational low-cost autopilot projects.

To compare these evolving projects on the site to commercial companies with retail products and large R&D budgets, is really comparing apples and oranges.

John Suggs has really bought himself and UNAV even more bad will with this ham handed entry to rcgroups and his totally unnecessary slap at Chris.

Comment by Dr Mike Black on November 30, 2009 at 2:02am

Sgt Rick,
HERE-HERE..Well Said!!!!!!!!!

You put it far more eloquentley than i had!

Admin Comment by Morli on November 30, 2009 at 3:16am

For thing is more interesting that Professional full time UAV company/s and people working!! therein are taking DiyDrones and Chris more seriously and probably considering this/forum member commitment to this hobby a threat to their business !!!!!!!!?!!!!! :)), ,

Comment by Dr Mike Black on November 30, 2009 at 4:03am

That i suspect is the WHOLE reason for thier comments....

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