Hey all, I am normally more of a reader on here than a writer but I can see that we Have a Problem here with drone (hate that word) safety and reckless pilots.

I had an idea to create a website purely informational on drone safety, the do's and dont's. No spam, no blog posts, just the info that people need to know.

  - Don't fly over people

  - Don't fly over 400ft.

  - ......

  You get the idea.

Fact is there are too many people buying ready to fly quads that have no idea on the risks, or are just reckless pilots. Just look at some of the recent stories on here, the FAA ban on FPV........

In my opinion there is enough man power on here to build a website where people can go and check the general rules and Laws in there country and get flying responsibly.

We could get in contact with some of the big manufacturers and ask them to put a link on their purchase page to get the info where it needs to be.

This needs to be a group effort, we need to get the ball back in our court. I have built basic websites before but im not the best, at the moment it is just an idea.

Who's interested and how can you help?

So there it is, my idea. let see if we can get the ball rolling.

____Edit: 14.07.2014

Main Rules to be On webite:

1. Dont fly over Crowded or urban areas

2. Allways fly within visual line of sight (VLOS)

3. Dont Fly above 400ft. or 120Meters, normal air traffic starts at 500ft.

4. Dont fly near airports, flying withing 8km or 5 miles of an airport is extremely dangerous.

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Comment by Scott Penrose on July 14, 2014 at 5:09am

You need to keep it really simple. Have like 4 rules. You can then expand. The ideas in the comments about checklists (long etc) have no impact until you are more advanced. Short sharp. But good idea in general.

Comment by Quadzimodo on July 14, 2014 at 5:21am
Dave - That is a sensible measure and was taken by CASA for Australian market months ago.

All - I prepared the basis of a draft Code of Practice for sRPAS and submitted it to CASA in response to the recent NPRM for sub 2kg sRPAS here in Oz. I will do a detailed post on this when I have suitable time to do so.
Comment by Jethro Hazelhurst on July 14, 2014 at 5:29am

I have some experience with Joomla! and Graphics Design, I'll see what I can come up with (no promises :) ).

What would be awesome is a briefing page on the mission planner with weather forecasts for the region. The briefing page could be customizable for each individual! Flight simulators have a briefing page why not a real life model aircraft!

Comment by Jethro Hazelhurst on July 14, 2014 at 5:32am

Looking forward to that Quadzimodo! There are many ways we could go about this, we just need to choose the most effective. Getting DJI to slip a note in each of their products is a stretch though and I think DIY-Drones will be the most responsive community due to the non-profit nature. Unfortunately safety just does not make good marketing (just look at kickstarter)!

Comment by Quadzimodo on July 14, 2014 at 6:48am

I agree that many (possibly most) companies will need to be required to demonstrate due care in arming their customers with a better understanding of the guidelines and potential risks in order to do so, for obvious reasons. As mentioned above CASA certainly have the right idea with their 'Flying with Control' e-brochure, designed for this very purpose.

Kickstarter is obviously it's own kettle of fish.  Virtually zero buyer protections apply because backers aren't actually purchasing an item, they are simply receiving a reward for their donation.

Comment by luke cooke on July 14, 2014 at 7:04am

That E-Brochure is great, something like that should be included in every RTF Quad.

I have edited the Main post with a List of 4 simple rules.

1. Dont fly over Crowded or urban areas

2. Allways fly within visual line of sight (VLOS)

3. Dont Fly above 400ft. or 120Meters, normal air traffic starts at 500ft.

4. Dont fly near airports, flying withing 8km or 5 miles of an airport is extremely dangerous.

If we can concentrate on that and build from there I think we may have a chance at making an impact. Getting DJI to put something like that E-brochure in their packaging is going to be a tall order, but it would be great if they did.

It is true that most of the recent incidents have been with Phantoms,but hand we cant single out DJI, at the end of the day they have made a great product and just want to sell it. They cant controll what the pilots do with them. This needs to be aimed at everyone who wants to fly a Quad/drone/UAS.

Thanks Jethro H. on the graphics front, I look forward to that!! PM me for my email address if you want to send me anything.

 Thanks guys!!

Comment by sixtimesseven on July 14, 2014 at 8:09am

Maybe it would be more effective to start a new post calling for as many people as possible to write to DJI and all other "drone" manufactures to put kind of a general safety checklist on top of their manuals... 

In the end, any regulations enforced by law will hit the rtf and DJI marked hardest... Time they notice this....

Comment by Ben Norris on July 14, 2014 at 8:22am

Don't use carbon fibre blades

Comment by Gary McCray on July 14, 2014 at 10:13am

That is a great E-Brochure, makes me wish I lived in Australia.

I think the basic idea of having a simple easy to read consumer friendly set of basic public safety oriented operating procedures is a really excellent one.

I do already have this page on my dronesarefun.com site: http://dronesarefun.com/DronesAreOK.html

It is designed for printing out for a multicopter flyer to hand out to the public that illustrates his(her) commitment to safe flying practices.

But I can see the need for one that simply describes safe flying practices as well.

I still have considerable disagreement with some of the FAA's recent "interpretations" .

Especially relating to the blanket no fly within 5 miles of an airport, 1 or 2 miles maybe, but beyond a mile or so there isn't any air traffic below 400 feet anyway.

So maybe a reasonable rule would be no flying over 50 feet within 2 miles of an airport or 100 feet within 5 miles.

Too many large areas covered by the 5 mile rule with overlapping airports and if you already have a 400 foot ceiling there is just no need.

Also, the whole FPV thing, but the "brochure" doesn't need to discuss that, by the time you get to FPV you would be a more advanced flyer (one would hope) anyway.

In any case I'll put together a simple US based one on the order of what Luke suggests above and the CASA flyer.

I'll submit it here for you guys to look over and comment on and redo it. I will make it available on my site and additionally produce a PDF and a standalone HTML page (with built in CSS) for any who would like to include it and modify it for their own sites.

This won't be a big comprehensive everything you need to know about safety thing, just the basics with some simple illustrations ala the CASA flyer.

Which is all you'll get the newbes to read anyway - if that.

I will try and get first pass out within a couple of days.

Best Regards,

Gary

Comment by luke cooke on July 14, 2014 at 12:38pm

Thats great gary, I think we are all on the same page here and we have got a good thing going. I agree On the airport thing sort of, There is surely not going to be any air traffic below 400ft at 2 miles out from an airport but I understand setting the limit abit wider out, 5 miles is maybe a bit much though.

Dave It will be great to hear what DJI has to say on the matter, I wanted to send them a mail anyway be you beat me to it. :) I dont think that DJI products will be banned because they are not doing anything wrong, they are just selling a product that some select people are missusing. Anyway I hope they understand that We all just want to help!!

When we are on the subject of contacting companys about this, who else should we inform?

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