Morning everyone!

So i decided to try the whole Dji thing. It took all of about 20mins to swop the APM2 with the Naza.

The setup is as simple as it gets. That took no more than 10 mins.

After installing the hardware and software I took it outside and attempted the first flight.

All I have to say is wow! A truly awesome piece of engineering! Dont get me wrong, I love my ardupilot!

But the Naza is just amazing! Im not a very experienced pilot so im still a little wobbly flying the APM2.

The real reason behind buying the Naza, is for videography. I cant fly the APM2 stable enough for videography, obviously its perfectly suited for that, Im just not experience enough to fly it well enough. Duran DeV flies all his copters on APM and his videos are mind blowing. So its not the FC, its the pilot!

For a not so fresh noob, the Naza makes the whole experience a dream. I did a direct swop out of the FC on the standard jDrones Arducopter and it worked like a charm, no tuning or anything.

I only flew it in atti mode. Which I think is awesome for videography, the alt hold is accurate to within a few centimeters.

And when I put my gopro on it, which threw out the COG, the flight dynamics remained exactly the same!

I hope the Ardu boys dont get upset with me for posting this, but one has to have an open mind to all new tech :)

G:)

P.S. I bought a ST Discovery high wing foamy trainer for my APM2 for photogrammetry, so Ill post some vids and or crashes of that soon!

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Comment by Chris Anderson on May 27, 2012 at 12:10am

Looks great in manual, but too bad you don't have a real autonomous UAV anymore ;-)

Comment by Gareth Rens on May 27, 2012 at 12:31am

@Chris. Agreed, but i dont need autonomy for videography. Im really looking forward to building my first Arduplane!!! *excited* :)


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Comment by Roberto Navoni on May 27, 2012 at 12:58am

Hi Chris Hi Gareth,

i try NAZA ,too but my impression isn't that is so good in fly . The performance is same of us platform not so different. So the main difference is that is very poor in the advanced configuration Option .

So at the startup you can "only" setup the frame , only a check box and not need to upgrade a new firmware for change a frame. Setup the radio standard or ppmsum .

Then you have 3 gain not pid for pitch roll and yaw and a good failsafe.

Stop no other functionality . Then with gps update could be that this platform add loiter and return to home.

So i yet propose to randy some upgrade for frame configuration , only a parameter to switch between configuration , simple way to setup is ppmsum or ppm standard channel.

Then we need to do a better work on failsafe and have a simple version of mission planner for entry level user.

The other thing to do is conversion between gain to PID.

Best

Roberto

Comment by theo van niekerk on May 27, 2012 at 3:51am

I have my APM1 on my quad at the moment but have recently ordered a droidworx ad8 so the APM1 is destined for that.....i ordered a NAZA to put  on the quad so that I have something I can chuck around without being to worried about a $1000 + frame getting trashed.......will keep you all posted , at the moment I have my APM1 dialed in super nice on my quad for normal flying still tweaking alt hold and nav pids but other than that doing a full throttle at full pitch take-off and doing the length of a rugby filed in what feels like about 4 or 5 seconds is quite the sight.

Comment by Duran - SteadiDrone on May 27, 2012 at 4:34am

Hey Gareth, thanks for the kind words :) It's like comparing cameras, was chatting to a flying buddy of mine this morning about new cameras, whjat to get, whats best, d800, 5diii, etc etc, it's the same with these systems, all of them have their pros and cons, for me it was just sticking to one and making it work, there are countless frames, motors, esc, prop combinations out there that it's just impossible to make a 'universal' system that will work with all  of them. We started our journey early last year with MK, and had 1 huge crash on the first real test flight (loose soldering joint on pdb) and thought no way, let me try Ardu, and I have to say, I LOVE IT!

Thanks again to all the developers and testerd who make this all work, it's simple outstanding stuff!

Yesterday I was a little bored and thought I'd build a quick 'scratch build' quad with old spared lying around, had an aold prototype carbon frame I had designed and built months ago as part of our new SteadiDrone line of quad, hex and octos (website coming soon!) some old MK motors that had taken a dive into a pool, as well as a VERY old makeshift APM1, also that took a swim in the same pool..

took me an hour to put it all together, load the code, calibrate, all stock settings and...

the BEST quad I've ever flown! lol, solid, stable, adgile, FAST, just amazing.. I will try shoot a vid of it this afternoon and post later :)

lol.

You can't go wrong with APM (1 or 2) for what you pay it's just the best, no doubt.

Comment by Duran - SteadiDrone on May 27, 2012 at 6:36am

Heres a short clip of that scratch build quadi :)

Comment by Duran - SteadiDrone on May 27, 2012 at 6:37am

excuse the narration ;)

Comment by Ellison Chan on May 27, 2012 at 7:19am

Must be something with my DJI 550 setup.  I've had bad experience with my Naza.  Gareth, since you both flown APM and Naza.  What's the deal with the "vario" throttle?

Comment by PACEFE on May 27, 2012 at 7:51am

@Chris,

      I guess its time you find a better argument.

My APM 2 is grounded until 2.6 is released. Hope my best for this release or I will give up. Only problem I have is I wont llike to sell any one else a not working system, so I have to build a balancing robot to use APM with. At least crashes wont be that bad in this case.

I fly a 50USD multiwii and it does just the same as APM but without the crashes.

The only thing I could ever fly navigation with is Arduplane.

Now it looks that good navigation can be achived with Ublox 6 as shown by Mario.

Hope we all get the integrated APM 2.0 Gps replaced by the new one free....

Arducopter can actually not fly waypoints or rtl, at least as my quad concerns. Will be great to know how much people in this forum can do navigation and how many not.

Pablo

Comment by Gareth Rens on May 27, 2012 at 8:30am

@PACEFE, With regards to loiter and nav with the arducopter. I havent been able to get it to work. With 5.5 code from mp, when I engage loiter it takes off with a mean speed to the left. I havent been brave enough to try any navs... Hopefully all with go well with my arduplane :)

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