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How to I stop throttle failsafe activation in Auto?

Posted by John Moore on June 25, 2012 at 7:50am

I installed a Hitec Optima 7 Rx into my plane and reprogrammed the FS settings. I want the failsafe to kick in in the manual modes but not in Auto mode. Using the 2.4 firmware, I have GCS, short failsafe, and long failsafe set to 0. I have THR_FAILSAFE set to 1. The failsafe works as planned in manual modes but it also puts the plane into Circle->RTL in Auto mode which I dont want. How can I fix this?

 

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  • James masterman April 25, 2013 at 4:07pm
    I think this has been fixed in Arduplane 2.71. The release notes say that one of the improvements is "prevent control mode changes due to receiver input change when in throttle failsafe". I haven't tried this release, but it sounds like a case of problem solved at last.
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    moglos April 25, 2013 at 2:34pm

    Hi John

    Have you had any luck with your failsafe problem? Or tested James Masterman's solution? I've searched and written a couple of posts but haven't had much in the way of help yet. I think I have the answer, but I was hoping a developer/expert would confirm it. See this post, and this older post.

    My solution is to program the Rx failsafe to set ch 8 (flight mode) to auto, similar to what James Masterman said below, (he answered my posts too, thanks James) and disable the throttle failsafe. If it goes out of radio range then the Rx failsafe will keep it in auto mode so the APM can continue the mission. This feels like a workaround to me, I expected you should be able to configure the parameters to allow this to happen.

    Note, I've only tested this on the bench so far and it works (stays in auto). I want to test it in flight this weekend.

  • James masterman October 9, 2012 at 6:24am

    Hi John,

    Not sure if you are still having this problem, but I have discovered something about failsafe with my radio that may help. When my DX7 is in Auto mode and it flies out of range, Failsafe is triggered. This was perplexing me as looking at the code, there is no way it should have gone Circle->RTL when starting from Auto Mode. The answer was in how my radio handles Failsafe.

    On failsafe, the receiver input into Channel 8 on APM was also changing along with the throttle, which meant the failsafe was inadvertently putting the APM back to manual mode. From here the normal Circle->RTL happens. The trick that worked for me was to bind my reciever with my switches already set to Auto position, this meant that on failsafe, it just stayed in auto mode and failsafe could be turned off by setting FS_SHORT and FS_LONG to 0. As far as I can tell from the code, these only have relevance in Auto modes anyway, and failsafe (Circle->RTL) is always triggered in the more manual modes (Manual/stabilise/FBW).

    Your radio may not be changing the mode setting on failsafe, but it is worth checking. You can test by connecing to mission planner, using the tuning graph on the flight data page and watching the values of ch3in (throttle) and ch8in (mode). Turn off your Tx and watch what happens to the value of ch8.

     

     

  • Andre June 27, 2012 at 12:52pm
    I know how you feel there is so much post and it seems like to little people wants to comment.
    I als has a problem and its now almost 4 days and no reply.
  • John Moore June 26, 2012 at 4:04pm

    So none of the experts have any ideas as to why this might happen? The software is set to ignore throttle failsafe in Auto modes but it triggers the failsafe anyway. 

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