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Last week I received from Gens Tattu two Li-Po batteries for review. The Tattu 2s 800 mAh and Tattu 3s 450 mAh. Firstly, I thought about making an individually test of each battery, but latter I found it more helpful to make a side by side comparison of them. Both Li-Po batteries are suitable for micro class FPV drones like the Blade Torrent 110 and KingKong ET series. Weighing about the same (~42 grams), I’m curious to find out which one will perform better (top speed vs flight time).

For my tests I will use the KingKong ET125 drone, which weights about 120 grams and it is equipped with 4-in-1, 10 Amps ESC (2-3s rated) and 7500 KV brush-less motors. Roughly, the number before “KV” represents RPM/Volt (under no load!), so higher battery voltage means more RPM, respectively higher speed.

In order to obtain higher voltage, Li-Po packs are made from several 3.7 Volt cells, serially connected. Therefore, a 2s LiPo (2 cell) has nominal voltage of 7.4 V and a 3s (3 cell) one has nominal voltage of 11.1 V.

Which battery is best for micro racing drones, 2s or 3s one?

Both batteries came well packaged and, as I requested, with JST discharge plug. While both LIPOs weights about 42 grams, they have a bit different form factor. As usual for Tattu batteries, they came half charged, about 3.82 V/cell.

Tattu 800mAh 2S lipo battery:

Specs

  • Number of cells: 2 (2s);
  • Voltage: 7.4 V (3.7/cell);
  • Capacity: 800 mAh;
  • Max Continuous Discharge: 45C (36A);
  • Discharge Plug (drone side): JST-SYP-2P;
  • Max Burst Discharge: 90C (72A);
  • Dimensions: 51.6 x 25.6 x 21 mm;
  • Weight: 42 grams.

As the stock battery of the KingKong ET125 has only 550mAh, I’m expecting at least 1 minute bonus of flight time for the extra 250mAh. Weight difference between 550mAh and 800mAh is about 7 grams only.

Specs

  • Number of cells: 3 (3s);
  • Voltage: 11.1 V (3.7/cell);
  • Capacity: 450 mAh;
  • Max Continuous Discharge: 45C (20.25A);
  • Discharge Plug (drone side): JST-SYP-2P;
  • Max Burst Discharge: 90C (40.5A);
  • Dimensions: 54 x 29 x 13 mm;
  • Weight: 41 grams.

Tattu 2s 800 mAh vs Tattu 3s 450 mAh

First off all, powering your drone with higher voltage batteries (like 3s instead of 2s) can produce permanent failure of electric parts. My suggestion is to check the “s” ratting of each individual component. For example, the motors and ESCs could be rated for 3s, but the VTX only for 2s.

After five charging/discharging cycles, I fully charged the batteries at 1 Amp. As you can see in the comparison table bellow, both LIPOs ended well balanced.

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Real world test

Next day, with confidence I went out to do some real world test. Firstly, I loaded the 2s LiPo into the KingKong ET125. As you can see in the video bellow, due the strong wind gusts, my flight was pretty erratic, so the results are not too relevant. I need to repeat it in more calm day.

Although, KingKong clearly says that is risky to use 3S LiPo batteries with the ET125, it worked very well. I noticed some improvements, but you need to be a damn good pilot to take advantage of the extra speed provided by the Tattu 3S 450 mAh. IMHO, 7500 KV motors are just fine with 2s batteries, especially with a light weight frame.

Tattu’s “Less is more” aka “Less weight, more flight time” slogan, proved to be pretty fair. While their 2s 800mAh LiPo has ~19.05 mAh/gram storing capacity, the 550 mAh Gaoneng LiPo has only ~15.71 mAh/gram. Compared to stock battery I got more than 1 minute extra flight time.

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What is Tiny Whoop Micro Quadcopter?

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Tiny Whoop is a small FPV(first-person-view) micro brushed quadcopter, its propellers are protected by EDF ducts that also makes it a very efficient little machine, we can fly FPV around people and kids safely. It allows some insane indoor FPV flying: chasing people, annoying your pets, cruise around the house without hurting anyone or damage anything. Compared to mini quads, the tiny size opens the horizon for new possibilities in FPV hobby. It’s more fun than I’ve ever had.

What are their advantages?

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  • Tiny size, making them ideal for flying indoors, through shelves, under desks, wherever.
  • They are Efficient, with up to 4 minutes of flight from a tiny battery.
  • Acrobatic Performance, capable of flips, rolls and fast climbs due to their power to weight.
  • Robust, their ducted design also allows them to shrug off most wall impacts.
  • Inexpensive to purchase and repair. Even the bigger-budget bundles represent great value.
  • Many on the market are ready to fly, and such accessibility is rare when it comes to FPV.
  • They are just awesome fun, seriously even if you just want to fly and not tinker.

What do we need know when we build a Tiny whoop?

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You can choose to go full-blown with 2S motors and batteries, or even opt for brushless motors (more on this another time!).

A typical build will contain the following parts:

  • A frame (80-100mm should be good)
  • A flight controller (the SPRacing F3 Brushed is a great choice)
  • Motors (8.5mm brushed) & propellers
  • Battery (400-750mAh; 1S/2S)
  • Receiver (depends on what transmitter you have)
  • AIO (all-in-one) camera (the FX798T is a proven champ)

You can read our Quadcopter frame, lipo battery, motor and propeller size matching table to know more about how to build quadcopter.

Batteries

Tiny Whoop use 1S 150-205mah LiPo batteries and flight time is about 1-2 minutes. Between different brands and discharge rates there might be a difference in flight time. It’s best to get loads of them. I think 10 to 15 of them is a good number to for a living room FPV racing session.

Motors

There are two types of upgrade 0615 motors sold by micro-motor-warehouse: medium & fast. Type of upgrade motors has an impact on performance and battery life. Because stock PIDs on the Inductrix main board are not adjusted to fly with neither medium nor fast so when flying in acro mode motors sound like they struggle and also there are some oscillations. I didn’t have a chance to test the stock motors with FPV gear on so can’t confirm how they perform in acro.

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