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Beware if you are in Spain

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With thanks to Patrick of GrupoAcre in Spain for sending this to us.

Yesterday we came to know (by news) that the Spanish Air Safety Agency (AESA) has suspended “All UAV Operations in Spanish Airspace” and further has declared that all operations, which are not conducted on a “Radio-controlled Aircraft Airfield” or in Sport Hall (Not Track and Field), are Illegal”.

What is the background on that?

Spain has a high level of so called “Pirate Flyers”, those guys fly with toy –equipment or semi-professional equipment, without “Insurances”, without obeying rules in max. Altitude and max. Distances, not obeying “Data Law” and other legal issues. Since, more and more “Not – Professionals” has declared by themselves as “Professionals” and few smaller accidents, obviously happened, AESA Spain has taken the decision to stop such operations, as of 07th April 2014.

For month ago, a Spanish Filming Company flew inside Madrid in FPV Mode on a distance of more than one km, in an altitude band between 20 – 150m, along the skyscraper etc. …. For sure a nice video, but a lot of people complained! Further and important is that Madrid has areas we filming and flying is not allowed …………….

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  • Luis thanks for sharing your insights. I also expect the spanish regulation to be close to the italian one. Hope this becomes clear soon.

    Thanks for your pointers. Our situation is a bit particular since we're trying to come up with a educational drone (check us out at http://erlerobot.com).

  • there are companies in spain already training on RPA based on EU regulations. if you wish to launch an adventure into RPA the best thing to do is get informed and get involve in the process. 

    there are already big RPA manufactures with impressive products (not a quad or a foanie, i'm talking big RPA for Science and Recue, even some military) they are all involve in the process, the regulation will come as is in germany or italy. and for the looks of it its not going to stop business at all.

  • Totally agree with you, these companies should know about the boundaries but I'm afraid that this result is not solely the activity of the companies but way more probably, misinformed individuals.

    Anyhow, knowing how hard finding investors in Spain is, this is definitely not good news for those of us that wish to launch something. 

  • frankly if this will affect UAV startups, they deserve to be affected. all this companies knew or should have known about this.

    Europe RPA regulation is no secret http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/aerospace/uas/

    if they wanted they should be a part of that, instead most of them choose to ignore and take advantage of no clear laws.

  • I understand the security concerns but honestly I am quite afraid that this announcement will affect to new startups in the UAV field within Spain. Knowing how things work in the country... we can perfectly remain in this "forbidden" situation for years. Let's hope I am mistaken.

  • FYI is awesome to have the spanish flag all over front page of DIYDrones!

  • we all fly, commercial use has never been allowed because there is no way to fulfill the requirements for the permits (RPA have no license or plates as other aircraft) that's what he incoming regulation will set in place.

    situation its pretty much the same as the US, we all fly recreational, were suppose to only fly in sanctioned fields but the police does not seem to matter when we fly away from civilization.

    issue is we been having a lot of media fuss becouse there is a bunch of fuckheads flying big octos (10kg or more) over crouds without permits, there been a few incidents and the last was a video in vimeo https://vimeo.com/80162468 from a guy that fly in Madrid (no fly zone) with a a phantom.

    that video was all over the place, press, tv and they are now under investigation by AESA for that. so nothing has changed everything is the same, they just may be getting a bit more formal and strict because of reckless use.

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    So what is the situation? Can RPAS fly in Spain

  • this post is misleading, that is no ruling AESA has no power to do so. that note is a "friendly" reminder of how things are in spain and always been.

    the note comes from a series of public videos that have being seeing on TV of shots in city and public events done via Multirotors.

    they are just sorting out the mess with a public "note" if you see the note is not even signed.

    this comes because spain is in the work of an RPA legislation and want to avoid any kind of trouble while that gets ready.

    they are just trying to stop all those companies lying to the clients saying they have permits to fly anywhere they want.

  • o está permitido, y nunca lo ha estado, el uso de
    aeronaves pilotadas por control remoto con fines comerciales o profesionales, para realizar
    actividades consideradas trabajos aéreos, como la fotogrametría, agricultura inteligente
    (detectar en una finca aquellas plantas específicas que necesitarían de una intervención, como
    riego, fumigación, para optimizar el cultivo), reportajes gráficos de todo tipo, inspección de
    líneas de alta tensión, ferroviarias, vigilancia de fronteras, detección de incendios forestales,
    reconocimiento de los lugares afectados por catástrofes naturales para dirigir las ayudas
    adecuadamente, etc.


    hope this las part changes soon

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