If you want to have six modes, you'll probably have to configure your RC transmitter to do this. That's usually accomplished by mixing a two position switch and a three position switch on your transmitter.
However, no example is given as to how this mix might work. In the comments to this blog post Setting Flight Mode with Hitec Aurora 9 there is a method given by Juan Enrique that I did in fact get to work with my JR 9303, however, it only gives you 5 flight modes, and not 6.
For those that want the full taco, and have a Tx with both a 3-position switch and a 2-position switch, try the following mix. I've only tested this on my JR9303 but really it should be easy to translate to any other Tx.
1) Choose your two switches. For this example I am choosing:
- Flap switch = 3 Position switch (also called my Flight Mode switch on the 9303)
- Gear switch = 2 Position
2) Modify the end-point (or travel adjust) on your 3 Position switch. Instead of travelling +100/-100, you need to change it to +65/-65. On the JR radio, if you are also using the Flap switch, this will actually show as Up 65/ Down 65, but it's the same thing.
Don't mess with the end-point (or travel adjust) of your Gear switch, leave it at +100/-100.
3) Now create your mix. On the 9303 there are two types of mixes: programmable mix 1 & 2 are multi-point, 3-6 are "standard" mixes. While you could probably get the multi-points to work, don't bother, just pick one of the standard mixes. I chose mix #3.
You are going to mix your 2-Position Switch (Gear) -> 3-Position Switch (Flap). In some terminologies, the equivalent statement is that your Master Channel will be the 2-Position Switch, and your Slave Channel will be the 3-Position Switch.
Really the screenshots below will explain much better than I can in writing. Basically:
- When your 2-Position Switch is "On" (position 1), set the mix to the 3-Position switch at -17 for the 3-Position switch in the "down" position, and 0 for 3-Position Switch in the "up" position.
- When the 2-Position Switch is "Off" (position 0), set the mix to the 3-Position switch at -33 for the 3-Position switch in the "up" position, and 0 for the 3-Position Switch in the "down" position.
4) Confirm that you get the correct PWM measurements. Do this by using the convenient test mode on the APM (v2 only), accessible via the CLI. See this page for how to access the CLI: APM CLI. Once connected to your APM, type "test" then hit Enter. Next type "pwm" then hit Enter. Make sure your radio is on. You will see rows streaming by with the PWM outs for all 8 channels. If you have the standard setup your flight modes will be on channel 8. Confirm that by moving your 3-Position and 2-Position switches you get all 6 of the following PWM values, or close to it:
These are the ideal values, but if you are slightly off that's ok. For reference, here is what the APM is looking for:
Flight Mode # -- Min. PWM -- Ideal PWM -- Max. PWM
#5 -- 1750 -- 1815 -- >1815
#4 -- 1620 -- 1685 -- 1749
#3 -- 1490 -- 1555 -- 1619
#2 -- 1360 -- 1425 -- 1489
#1 -- 1230 -- 1295 -- 1359
#0 -- <1165 -- 1165 -- 1229
You can assign any flight mode to any number with one exception: Flight Mode 5 (PWM >1750) is ALWAYS manual. This can't be changed (unless you want to modify APM code yourself). The reason for this is the fail-safe.
To assign the desired flightmode to each of these numbers (except of course #5), you again use the CLI in the Setup Menu -> "modes" command.
Question: Since Flight Mode 5 is always Manual, what happens if you don't like the direction your Tx switches end up at? You can try two things:
- Use channel reversing on your 3-Position switch.
- For your 2-Position switch, you'll notice that reversing the channel on your Tx will have no effect on the PWM output. If you want to reverse your 2-Position switch, you have to modify the mix. Instead -17 and -33, change these mix values to +17 and +33, and swap their locations (from 3-Position switch "up" to "down" and vice versa). Again, see the photos below for clarification.
Question: What if my PWM values aren't exactly what you get? In this case, try adjusting the mix values. Note that if you increase one, you will probably need to decrease the other (so if you up the 17, you might find you'll need to lower the 33). The end-points also make a difference and if you want you can adjust those, but I think the +65/-65 is what you really want.
Hope this helps someone... It drove me nuts for hours.
Travel adjust / end-point adjust (different names for the same thing). Set your 3-Position switch to +65/-65 (here I am using the flap switch)
Mix your 2-Position switch (Gear in this case) to your 3-Position switch (Flap in this case) and have the mix be controlled by the 2-Position switch (Gear)
Alternate mix if you want to reverse the direction of your 2-Position switch (Gear in this case). To reverse the direction of your 3-Position switch, just use the channel reversing function in your Tx.
Example output of the "pwm" test program from the APM command-line-interface. Channel 8 is showing flight mode #5 (manual).
It's excellent explanation how to config Japan Radio. Tested with my XG8 and XG14.
So now I have all flight modes (reversed 3-pos stick exactly as you described and changed limits to +75, -75).
ok. Tomorrow will try it on my JR XG14.
This works great. One request however. I would like to program a safety switch. By this I mean if I activate the safety switch, it goes straight to manual no matter what. This will come in handy when having to deal with numerous switch combinations. I have tried several times on my own however I can not figure it out.
Current setup on a JRx9503:
I have Aux 2 switch (3 pos) programmed for flight modes (this eradicates Dual Rates when I switch between manual and any other mode.
FM0, Gear up; Manual
FM0 Gear Down; Stabilize
FM1 Gear Down; FBWA
FM1 Gear Up; FBWB
FM2 Gear Up; Autotune
FM2 Gear Down; Circle
I am currently utilizing Flaps and all D/R switches, leaving the "mix 2" (2 pos) switch open.
I banged my head with this for three days. I finally have it working for 6 flight modes. I followed the instructions exactly except instead of channel 8 I had to switch flight mode channel to channel 6. In channel 5 it would use the gear but the flap switch did nothing just giving me two flight modes. On channel 8 was just a slider and same issue if I made 8 the gear switch. So I had to finally just switch to channel 6 and that made everything work perfectly. To be fair it would have only been thirty minutes and not three days if this information was readily available. This is pretty much the only flight mode programming you can find for APM or pixhawk for the JR. I am grateful for this but I hope that someone can update the front end so that it is more complete. Thank you for all of your contributions.
Hello, I have been follwing this discussion pretty closely but for the life of me, I just cannot seem to get the apm 2.6 to work. I just bought myself a pre-loved ironman 650 quad with apm 2.6 setup. I have been 'severely lost in the woods' since getting this lovely craft 10 days ago. I have been flying helis for abt a decade but the programming of the apm will blow fbl gyro out of the water anytime. as mentioned, I just can't seem to get the 6 flights mode required for the apm. For the wiring of the apm, i m using ar8000 gear ch is plugged to port 5 of apm, aux2 is to port 6 and aux 3 is plugged into port 7. port 8 is empty as of now. I am using a dsx9, I have not been able to mix the programming to get the radio to move 6 positions in the radio calibration screen of mission planner. Just wondering if I coul seek yr advice as regards to what I am doing wrong or omitting something? I have not slept properly since the purchase of this quad and THE wife is seriously pissed with me for spending all this time in front of the computer instead of spending time with our baby boy.
How do you read the 6 PWM values using Mission Planner? Thanks
This works on a DSX 9 thanks
When i go onto the mode page the modes only recognise the gear switch 0 and 1 which green highlight mode 1&6 the modes will not recognise the flap switch at all
I als notice that you have flight modes on your radio enabled do i need to set up a flight mode i am a newbie at this radio setup
wow, this setup work great... thanks....