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  • I am doing this out of my own meager pockets right now. a dot org domian will cost more than I have.

    A 501c3 status would be nice for contributors to het a deduction too, again; this costs a few hundred to thousands of dollars to do. I have run a few charitible orgs without a 501c3 and it is fully legal, just no tax perks.

    Any contributions of money, assistance and/or assets would be greatly appreciated.

  • You need a .org domain name and some proper hosting IMO.

  • There is nothing in the rules against autopilot, full (or semi) autonomous operations, AP or FPV. They are simply different aspect of recreational sUAS. There may be some rules added such as an RC override for fully autonomous systems. The purpose of NRF is a program of safe recreational flying, not to promote (or denigrate) any aspect thereof.

  • I do not wish to change any rules.   I would only wish to change perception of what is a good thing.

    In this case I wish to like to see the promotion of autopilots as a time and money saving device.

    Nothing to do with safety.  Purely a way to save $$$$ and the heartache of loosing hundreds of hours of workmanship.

     

    If the NRF is not the organisation to achieve this, fair enough.

  • Hre is a positive example of an "at will, free membership" organization:

    Lompoc Valley Medical Center Foundation

  • The operating principles of the National Recreational Flyers

     

    1. The NRF has one primary purpose, to provide a safe program for all recreational sUAS enthusiasts to participate in.

    2. There are no dues or fees for NRF membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions.

    3. The only requirement for membership is a desire to safely fly recreational, sport or academic sUAS.

    4. The NRF ought never endorse, finance or lend the NRF. name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property and prestige divert us from our primary purpose.

    5. The welfare of all recreational flyers should come first; the privilege of flying depends on unity.

    6. The NRF ought never be organized; but we may create service boards or committees directly responsible to those they serve.

    7. Any number of NRF members may create an NRF Club so long as they follow the NRF principles of operation and NRF safety rules.

    8. NRF Clubs shall remain autonomous except in matters affecting the NRF or recreational aviation as whole
  • The safety rules are based on th original ARC/FAA recommendations.

    In order to add to them would require a definitive rationale for doing so.

    We can't just add/remove items at will (unlike another CBO).

    Do some research for justification and write up a rule. I have no problem adding stuff other than my limited time until July.

  • A difference:

     AA is trying to reduce an activity which is internationally accepted as a bad thing.

     NRF is trying to increase an activity which is internationally associated with bad things,

     

    so, promote the good things to take focus away from the bad things.  I would like to see NRF producing positive rational marketing support for amateur modelling.

     

    How about starting with good promotion of return to home fail-safe and stabilisation.  RTL could save many $$$$ of accidents, nevermind the safety benefits.  Maybe it would become unacceptable to fly a heavy model without this kind of safety device.

  • I wish I knew of other "self-supporting, no dues or fees" organizations.

    AA is was the first (I think) in the USA and most self-help orgs I know of follow their principles of operation.

    As for other orgs challenging anything, that my lessen their chances of sueing us. If we aren;t "real" how can they sue? I nly care that we meet the US Gov't definition of CBO and nothing else.

  • Veddy veddy interestink.

    A good idea, the membership card, with a statement kinda sorta like, "by my signature below I indicate my understanding of, and agree to abide by, the National Recreational Flyers Rules for Operating Aircraft." OK, maybe that wording sucks. It was so eloquent whilst still in my head. But I think you get my drift.

    OTOH I don't get the underlying meaning of the membership references of AA and 12 step programs ... no alcoholics in the immediate family and myself a "supertaster," alcohol, hops, and tobacco are unpalatably bitter so it's somewhere I've never gone. Perhaps you could find another sort of reference for establishing the legitimacy of such an "at will" organization. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea and I like the price. I just think that there will be pushback from other organizations challenging that it is a "real" organization.
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