I have built my Y6 with APM2 / 880kv motors / APC 12x3.8 props. Arducopter software with MP.

I have decided I am rubbish at trying to fly it. I have broken 9 props, 1 motor, 6 motor mounts, and snapped the sonar off twice within 4 attempts to hover. I have had it 14ft from the ground, but when it drifts I naturally panic and dump the throttle. I have never flown anything before now.

 So I have just downloaded the demo of AeroSim RC, and I am pretty useless at that too ! but no doubt I will pick it up on the simulator soon (full edition ordered) .On the FPV Y6 setup in the sim, it is 500% easier to control (except for landing) . On the real Y6, would it be this much easier in FPV after I add my Video gear/goggles?   I am going to practice allot with the sim when It gets here, but just would like to know how much easier the real thing with fpv is to control than without please?

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I have been flying helicopter, planes e.t.c for about 15years, I have tried FPV and didn`t crash but found it very different, the problem is it can be quite disorientating if you are in a field with just grass on the ground, everything looks the same and the ground comes in quick and fast if you are not paying attention, but that was using a kk board which is a bit like flying the apm in acro mode. So in my opinion it can be easier as you dont have to think about which way you are facing. If you have apm with stabilise then I would say its definately easier if you dont get disorientated but I doubt you would have as much precision as you would flying normally.

But I would say it`s well worth learning to fly normally first, in case you lose video link and have to fly manually..

Thanks Dean. Very good advice.  If I program the 'Land' function into my 3 pos toggle switch and use it in flight, will the Y6 come down slowly with a soft landing ? This might help me save a few parts of my machine.

It will come down, but not always slowly? if you have sonar it helps, the problem is the apm knowing where the ground is? it never has come down really hard when I have been experimenting with it, but it sometimes comes down with a bump.

If you see here, it lands on it`s own and looks as though its going to come down quite hard, but just stops in time... I have tuned the parameters alot since that flight, so maybe it is better now?

It will but your machine has to be very well tuned to land well. Trick is learn to fly very slowly, a quad, esp with stab on it is a great way to learn you just have to follow a protocol,

RADD's school of flight is a little long winded, but will save you countless props till you get your head around it..

http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.htm

Dudz i have only one other piece of advice..

http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/Micro-Quadcopter/Walkera-QR-Ladybird/p-1...

Its taught my son to fly, its taught my good lady to fly and they both love it. And its cost me less than 20 quid in spares since i bought it, with all three of us flying/crashing it. Shame i dumped it in the neighbours gutter a few days ago - still debating whether its worth risking the tri and gopro trying to retrieve it with magnets...

You need a devo tranny if you haven't already got one.

Dean, my only real FPV has been on a kk - I gotta say its all about the practice! I'm still rubbish but get 2x as good each time a go out! And I've been trying with APM, it so much easier, stabilise is a joy, if it gets out of shape just let go and look at the ground...

Loiter is both brilliant and very weird whilst FPVing :)

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