Comment by W. Joe Taylor on December 8, 2012 at 8:39am

hi Josh,
I'm Using a very small (1 gram) 10 mW 5.8 GHz transmitter on my very small camera (1.3 grams), I need the best receiver antenna possible for my fpv. Do you have a link to the theory (physics & math) for this circular polarized antenna design?
Thanks for the tutorial. Even a little ratdog like me thinks he can do it. But I would prefer to also understand it.
joe

Moderator Comment by Graham Dyer on December 8, 2012 at 9:55am

Both the guides are for 900-1300MHz, 5.8GHz antenna's are very small relative to these and are quite hard to do, a friend got a professional jeweller to make his, otherwise you just buy ready-made ones for 5.8GHz as they are fairly easily available.

Comment by Peter Seddon on December 8, 2012 at 10:48am

For 5.8Ghz, tolerances are such that your finished antenna will need tuning which requires extra equipment, the skill to know how to use it and patience to achieve a good result.

Good luck, Peter 

Comment by W. Joe Taylor on December 8, 2012 at 7:02pm

Thanks Graham & Peter.
So I'll just make one for the jDrones telemetry instead of the video.

Comment by Ho-Chung Chang on December 8, 2012 at 9:32pm

Are there any gain information about these antennas?

Comment by Josh Potter on December 9, 2012 at 6:58am

The PDF does list the requirements for making 2.4 and 5.8 at the bottom, but Graham is right, the tolerances get tighter.  I modified the 1280MHz lengths and aim for 1.2 SNR for 1253MHz and 1280MHz like the ones he sells.

He has some information here, but not exactly what you're wanting Joe.
http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?3960-Windmill-fan-tutorial!

I was doing some flying on campus and an old HAM guy came up and started talking to me about the design, so my guess is that it's just another old HAM antenna that has been around for ages.  If I find the good stuff about it, I'll be sure to share it.  I did ask hugo and ibcrazy the different between the two styles and didn't get a very clear answer unfortunately. 

Comment by W. Joe Taylor on December 9, 2012 at 7:40am

Josh,
Do you and Hugo make the 5.8 GHz antenna? If so how much? I may just purchase one (or more) to play with. The tutorials at Fpvlab.com are great. Also, this has opened up new vistas for me to exploreq, especially info at http://videoaerialsystems.com/. The chart with dimensions for various frequencies is great, and I did find a pretty good web site on theory, so once I digest that hope to write a little Mathcad file and share it. Also, it will be fun to explore and build some circuits for hooking these up to the Oscilloscope, ; although Figuring out how to measure the high frequencies and get meaningful results will also be a challenge for me. Of course the easiest way to measure gain will be to just hook them up and check out thesignal in a big field prior to flight, manually verify the distance, etc.

Comment by Josh Potter on December 9, 2012 at 7:52am

Joe,

I have nothing to do with Hugo or True R/C, I simply just liked the ease of building his antennas and started making my own.

Look up IBcrazy blog on rcgroups for fpvlab. (he owns videoaerialsystems).  He's got some great guides on making your own SNR tools and the like, and might have some information on how to measure some of the stuff you're looking to see.

Comment by W. Joe Taylor on December 9, 2012 at 9:38am

Thanks again Josh. Will do.

Comment by Josh Potter on December 14, 2012 at 6:48am

Joe,

A person with knowledge that far exceeds mine just sent me this document on that design. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but I wanted to share.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/w6shp/lindy.html

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