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      Thorsten > Rob_Lefebvre May 19, 2016 at 6:19am

      Rob, so how did you determine that the control difficulties stem from vibrations - FFT analysis?

      I always check both the Accel values and the Vibes and use the one that looks worst as an indicator.

      • Rob_Lefebvre > Thorsten May 19, 2016 at 3:50pm

        Basically experience told me.  I could see the vibrations were high, and the thing was barely flying.  

  • Derek May 17, 2016 at 8:36am

    In the dataflash charts of IMU1/2, we see Z values commonly around -10, is this because the sensor chips are mounted upside down on the pcb and is capturing the 1g of earth's gravity? If so then is the Z axis a scale of 10, but x and y are scales of 1? Or are all axis g's x 10?

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      Hugues > Derek May 18, 2016 at 1:36pm

      Zacc is around -9.81 since gravity is a downward acceleration.

  • Gerhard Laubscher May 16, 2016 at 3:22am

    Hi Group,

      Is this thread still live?

    Can you advise? -

    Build - Quad-X Config Tarot 650S, Motor-4114, Prop 15.5  PixHawk FC FW333, (loaded ~ April 8th/2k16)

    Batt 6S, Atun Success, MP 1.3.37

    I have had this problem where plotting the Vibes Graph in MP I find that the X-axis appears ok,

    whilst the Y-axis is 'way' diff to X.

    I have inspected the rig to check for bad mechanics, all seems good.

    Used diff sets of props of which I have balanced, imho

    I am not experienced enough to eval the problem, I hope that within the community to find info

    to assist resolving the perceived problem.

    I have attached the bin file here for review as well as the various pics and Atun params.

    When plotting the Des/Att Pitch & Roll, it appears to me the Att P&R follows the Des P&R closely?

    Although I observe in Att P&R what appears to be a continuous ~sinosiodal-curve as it

    tracks the Des P&R.  Not sure is this is normal or acceptable?

    The craft flies 'ok', however, since this is actually the first time for me in the uav tech,

    I admit I am not experienced enough to evaluate the craft's 'practical' in the air

    flight dynamics and performance.  Although, in STBLZ mode it is quite 'agail' and 'responsive'.

    In AltH and PosH it 'appears' to be good, as I understand it. 

    I am though concerned about the Vibes, I don't believe it is correct and may bite me on the 'bum' in the future if not sorted.

    Lastly, note that I am not an experienced pilot at all.

    I appreciate any feedback or pointers to help me resolve this, if possible.

    Thank you for your time.

    Regards,

    Gerhard

    Cape Town, South Africa

    3691297686?profile=original3702242311?profile=original3691297629?profile=original3691297695?profile=original

    2016-05-13 16-28-40.bin

    J1023.rar

    • Gerhard Laubscher > Gerhard Laubscher May 17, 2016 at 4:44am

      Hi Julian,

        Thanks for your reply.

      Yes, it appears that way, vibration on the Y-Axis -

        thus side-to-side and not Nose(Fwd)-to-Back?

      btw, the Batt = 6S 8000mah  

      AUW = 3kg

         Find pics of my build attached as compressed file.

      Re build -

      After viewing the build-pics -

      The pic ..mountrubr2  indicates that -

      The basemount-plate is mounted on the frame with 4x double-side square pieces of softrubber-double-sidedtaped.  tape thickness : 10mm

      You can then see the next plate (FC Carry plate) connected to the baseplate with 4xx anti-vibr rubber-bubbles.

      The FC is mounted with 2 pieces 3M-d/side tape (~1.5mm thick) flat onto the Carry Plate.

      Hope it makes sense?

      If you need more info, please ask.

      btw, I hate to jump around with the same topic into diff groups/threads, but initially I got no

      feedback from the community.  So, initially i posted here -

      http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/vibe-xok-ybad-imu-problem?comment...

      and here - http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/copter-3-3-beta-testing?commentId...

      I will request in these 2 links to carry-on here so that all contributions can be on thread

      Here is just a quick view of built -

      3702633067?profile=original3702633130?profile=original3702633141?profile=original

      DIY.rar

      • RichWest > Gerhard Laubscher May 19, 2016 at 11:21am

        Gerhard, is this the common isolation mount and configuration being used for isolating the PH?  If so, where can it be purchased?  Link to a thread discussing this mounting method would be appreciated as well.

        Thanks for posting pictures of your build....

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          Thorsten > RichWest May 19, 2016 at 12:56pm

          Hi RichWest,

          as far as I know the original and most probably best version of that mount comes from Guy McCaldin:

          http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/3d-printed-anti-vibration-mount

          The cheap plate/carbon versions as on Gerhard's copter deform the dampers - with unknown effects. 

          • RichWest > Thorsten May 19, 2016 at 2:54pm

            Thanks for the link, I searched after his reply and found the same thread as your link.  It's a really interesting design, angled isolators.  I had seen that design previously, but had no application for it at the time. 

            I would suspect in Gerhard's build that the isolators are resonating fairly well, not much absorbing being done as the isolators are in tension.

            Again, thanks for the correction....

        • Gerhard Laubscher > RichWest May 19, 2016 at 11:36am

          Hi Rich,

           The double-mountplate with anti-vibration rubbers were supplied with the kit, when I bought it. 

          So unfortunately I can't recommend a supplier for the mount-kit alone, at this time.

           Gerhard

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