Best Micro Quad for APM?

I'm considering getting my son (7 yo) a quadcopter for Christmas.  I spend a lot of time working on these things, and so we could do this together.  Also it would be fun to see how to develop the program so that "even a child can use it".

I have considered something like the Ladybird, but it seems a bit toy-like to me.  I want something that could be flown outside on a calm day.  Also, since this is all closed-source, if there's something I don't like about it, I can't do anything about it.

I have also considered building something using an F450 clone frame, but my fear is that it's a little too big and could be dangerous for him.

What small frame could I look at that would fit an APM2?

How about one of these?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__26587__X230_Mini_Quadcopter_Combo_w_Motors_ESCs_Propellers_.html

Or these:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22607__Turnigy_Integrated_PCB_Micro_Quad_KIT_.html

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  • So I was ordering a bunch of stuff from Hobby King last week, and ended up with 200g of weight left over on my order, so I threw an F-330 frame in for $9.  (seriously?!?!  $9???)

    Now, can anybody recommend a build-out for the rest of it?

    I'm thinking of going with the F-20A ESC's.  These are the best flashable ESC's.  Unless they're simply too big?

    What about motors?  They're recommending 28-26 motors.  1000kv or 1200kv?  

    I'd like to use my 3S2200 battery packs I have for my little heli unless they're simply too big?

    8x4.5 props?  They have those cheapys...

    This won't make it in time for Christmas, but that's fine.

    (yes, I'm addicted to Hobby King)

  • Ooops, I thought I had a spare APM2 to put on it, but I don't.  So that would make this too expensive. Maybe it will be the Ladybird or Hubsan one.

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    The ladybird is an excellent quad and a lot of fun to fly. It has a surprising amount of power for the size. The fatal flaw are the brushed motors which can be damaged easily. If you're careful you can repair the brushes and get it back in working order.

    The included radio has a very nice build quality. The LB also has a power out for a small wireless transmitter.
    My only issue is it doesn't have an autopilot or Simple mode...
    Jason
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