Heli Controls Changing Direction During Flight

My 450 heli just made its maiden autonomous flight yesterday.  Unfortunately, it became intimate with a tree when I apparently lost control of the aircraft.  It was in Position Hold/Simple Mode for the whole flight, which initially went just fine.  At a certain point, however, the aircraft started traveling in a direction other than where I was telling it.  After fixing the damage, I was performing a pre-flight and I noticed that the swash-plate movement was about 60 degrees off from my cyclic control movements.  The stabilize movements were correct when I moved the aircraft around, but the cyclic controls were off by a lot.  I looked through the parameters looking for some sort of setting that might have gone nuts, but I didn't see anything obvious.

What's causing this to happen, and how can I prevent it from occurring again?  I am using ArduCopter 2.7.1.

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  • Thanks Randy. This crash wasn't too bad; the rotor struck a branch and the heli fell about 60 feet to land flat on the skids. New main shaft and rotors and it was good as new :)  It didn't even bend the torque tube!

    I have a new theory about what might have happened:  Somehow Simple mode got "stuck" in one orientation, in my case about 60 degrees off from "simple forward".  This happened mid-flight and persisted even after resetting the APM2 and disabling Simple mode, until I performed another compass calibration.  Since the calibration, everything has been working fine.

    I'm trying to find the log for this flight; I have about 20 from that day.  Hopefully this was just a one-time glitch...

  • No, this happened last week.

    I have examined the parameter files and the only differences are in the sensor calibrations:

    Crash Params:                          Good Params:

    COMPASS_OFS_X,-88.252         COMPASS_OFS_X,-93.063
    COMPASS_OFS_Y,123.38          COMPASS_OFS_Y,168.221
    COMPASS_OFS_Z,120.977        COMPASS_OFS_Z,136.92

    INS_XH,8630                              INS_XH,32072
    INS_XL,-17185                            INS_XL,-17160
    INS_YH,5230                             INS_YH,15340
    INS_YL,15388                            INS_YL,15295
    INS_ZH,23706                            INS_ZH,-4879
    INS_ZL,-17380                            INS_ZL,-17380

  • Thanks for the replies!  I appreciate the credit Robert.  I do have a background in engineering and programming, but I have very little r/c flight experience.

    I'd like to think that I have a good understanding of how Simple mode works; I was actually having some fun flying in Stabilize/Simple before I had the rudder trimmed properly.  The helicopter was spinning wildly and, despite my novice piloting skills, I could still fly just fine.

    I'm using Robert's governor code on channel 8, so the APM2 was definitely armed before takeoff.  Since I currently only have a 4 channel transmitter, I mapped the flight modes to the collective.  With the stick at minimum the flight mode is Stabilize/Simple and it changes to Position Hold/Simple as soon as it's raised.  I waited for GPS lock, armed the APM2 in Stabilize/Simple, raised the collective which activates the governor and changes the mode to Position Hold/Simple, and I proceeded to hover for about 5 minutes.  The crash occurred as I was bringing the aircraft in for a landing.  I told it to fly past the tree, and it flew into it :)

    Troubleshooting found that disabling Simple mode did not correct the problem of the swashplate being off, but a compass calibration did.  I hypothesize that GPS "jumping" combined with an extended hover and compass auto-declination caused the compass to acquire an odd calibration.  I will attach the before and after parameters in case anyone wants to look at them.

    crash parameters.param

    good parameters.param

    https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3692493284?profile=original
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    Yes, Rob's right of course.

    Remember on a helicopter you should still "arm" the motors (throttle down, rudder full right) because this resets the barometer and also sets the heading used by simple mode.

  • Are you sure you know how simple mode works?  I sounds like you were in simple mode when you thought you weren't, or not in simple mode when you thought you were.

    Or, could be a gross magnetometer mis-calibration.

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