I totally understand that...It's a really cool feature for a specific application. My concern is that 3DR is trying to position this as a P3/DJI competitor but whhen you compare the feature set that most AP users care about it is essentially the same machine but with a 50% higher price tag
Yes the P3 has Lightbridge but it does not have an HDMI output. that means you can't use it for live broadcasts. You need the inspire for that which is a huge chunk of change more expensive.
I see 3dr has release more specs today, the HDMI is only 720p, have to say I'm a little disappointed by that, it means its only barely HD.
There is no onboard linux companion computer on the DJI Phantom. The advantage of having that linux companion computer is that it can be programmed to do much more interesting autonomous flight. The Solo uses that companion computer to calculate the positions for the set piece camera shots. Once the shot parameters have been uploaded, that companion computer is in control. The power of that companion computer is helping with the smooth, ease-in/out beginning and end to shots.
With the DJI you could create an app on the GCS (iPhone) using their SDK to do the same, the only problem is that link reliablity becomes an issue as dropouts can effect the flight path. The Solo, while flying a set-piece, does not need a 100% reliable link.
The built-in on-board computer is the 'secret-sauce' for the Solo. The innovation is towards automated complex camera shots, repeatable even.
Yes the P3 has Lightbridge but it does not have an HDMI output. that means you can't use it for live broadcasts. You need the inspire for that which is a huge chunk of change more expensive.
I see 3dr has release more specs today, the HDMI is only 720p, have to say I'm a little disappointed by that, it means its only barely HD.
The Solo equipped with a GoPro 4 and Gimbal is $1900. A Phantom 3 Pro is $1259 and already includes a 4k camera, gimbal and lightbridge. To justify purchasing a Solo instead, having that hdmi port would need to be worth about $650 to me.
of course, yes I'm aware of lightbridge, but my point was affordable
putting hdmi output in a low cost platform is a game changer.
the lightbridge system costs more than the price of a ready to fly SOLO.
From what I understand, the SOLO is using something "similar to wifi" for the pt to pt link between the controller and the drone, but is actually using WiFi between the controller and the tablet.
I'd really like to see some more specs and information on what "similar to wifi" actually means.
From what I infer from that, its probably actually using WiFi but may be using a layer 2 protocol to try and keep the latency low. My understanding is that it is 180ms of latency, implying that it must be a fairly low level UDP like protocol.
one of the biggest game changes that hasn't really been mentioned in all the forums, in my opinion is the HDMI output.
This makes the SOLO the only affordable platform in the world for HD live broadcasts.
that might not be a big deal for most people, but for the media and broadcast industry that is MASSIVE!!!
The huge sums of money you have to shell out to get this functionality from a custom build is absolutely insane.
To get it in a small portable drone that is easy to fly is a live broadcast game changer. We are going to see the SOLO all over TV broadcasts, live events and anywhere where you need to send an HD live feed.
I'd be really interested in some of the specs on the HDMI output, whether it has any hdcp limitations etc and the HDMI spec it is using.
We will be testing the solo with an HDMI to SDI converter so that live video can be directly ingested into a broadcast system. its very exciting.
3DR store site redesign is interesting though. It's divided between SOLO and DIY. I guess that's indicative of company's consumer strategy. Capturing the consumer imagination is a different ball game. I am sure smart folks at 3DR have strategies in place to conquer the general consumer market. May be all those Gopro customers will pour in with their SOLO orders...
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@Toby
I totally understand that...It's a really cool feature for a specific application.
My concern is that 3DR is trying to position this as a P3/DJI competitor but whhen you compare the feature set that most AP users care about it is essentially the same machine but with a 50% higher price tag
the latency from drone to smartphone is 180ms which is FAST.
no specs on latency from drone to HDMI but it would have to be even quicker than that as it has one less hop.
@Tony
Yes the P3 has Lightbridge but it does not have an HDMI output. that means you can't use it for live broadcasts.
You need the inspire for that which is a huge chunk of change more expensive.
I see 3dr has release more specs today, the HDMI is only 720p, have to say I'm a little disappointed by that, it means its only barely HD.
What's the latency of video trasmission ? From HDMI , to Video Output on Smartphone / HDMI ?
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Roberto
There is no onboard linux companion computer on the DJI Phantom. The advantage of having that linux companion computer is that it can be programmed to do much more interesting autonomous flight. The Solo uses that companion computer to calculate the positions for the set piece camera shots. Once the shot parameters have been uploaded, that companion computer is in control. The power of that companion computer is helping with the smooth, ease-in/out beginning and end to shots.
With the DJI you could create an app on the GCS (iPhone) using their SDK to do the same, the only problem is that link reliablity becomes an issue as dropouts can effect the flight path. The Solo, while flying a set-piece, does not need a 100% reliable link.
The built-in on-board computer is the 'secret-sauce' for the Solo. The innovation is towards automated complex camera shots, repeatable even.
@Tony
Yes the P3 has Lightbridge but it does not have an HDMI output. that means you can't use it for live broadcasts.
You need the inspire for that which is a huge chunk of change more expensive.
I see 3dr has release more specs today, the HDMI is only 720p, have to say I'm a little disappointed by that, it means its only barely HD.
The Solo equipped with a GoPro 4 and Gimbal is $1900. A Phantom 3 Pro is $1259 and already includes a 4k camera, gimbal and lightbridge. To justify purchasing a Solo instead, having that hdmi port would need to be worth about $650 to me.
of course, yes I'm aware of lightbridge, but my point was affordable
putting hdmi output in a low cost platform is a game changer.
the lightbridge system costs more than the price of a ready to fly SOLO.
From what I understand, the SOLO is using something "similar to wifi" for the pt to pt link between the controller and the drone, but is actually using WiFi between the controller and the tablet.
I'd really like to see some more specs and information on what "similar to wifi" actually means.
From what I infer from that, its probably actually using WiFi but may be using a layer 2 protocol to try and keep the latency low. My understanding is that it is 180ms of latency, implying that it must be a fairly low level UDP like protocol.
ok, so my two cents on the solo.
one of the biggest game changes that hasn't really been mentioned in all the forums, in my opinion is the HDMI output.
This makes the SOLO the only affordable platform in the world for HD live broadcasts.
that might not be a big deal for most people, but for the media and broadcast industry that is MASSIVE!!!
The huge sums of money you have to shell out to get this functionality from a custom build is absolutely insane.
To get it in a small portable drone that is easy to fly is a live broadcast game changer.
We are going to see the SOLO all over TV broadcasts, live events and anywhere where you need to send an HD live feed.
I'd be really interested in some of the specs on the HDMI output, whether it has any hdcp limitations etc and the HDMI spec it is using.
We will be testing the solo with an HDMI to SDI converter so that live video can be directly ingested into a broadcast system. its very exciting.
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