Chris Anderson, an early developer of sUAS hardware and ArduPilot firmware

Under new legislation, small Unmanned Aircraft System is subject to compulsory registration prior to the small UAS operating outdoors.

Since home development of model aircraft, small UAS is a procedure made of the following steps:

1. buy parts, install motors, propellers, battery, control unit, radio, sensor/s

2. assembly the above parts

3. test such home developed model aircraft outdoor

loop 1. 2. 3. 

Under new legislation home developers, modellers are banned to test new assembled

small aircraft, small drones outdoors,

since you are required to register any assembled kit before the operating outdoors.

Battery replaced >  New registration required > new registration number assigned

Motors replaced > ..

Propellers replaced > ...

New frame purchased for tests >  New registration required

So in theory and practice, activities of ArduDrone, ArduPlane developers, modellers

have been banned, since any new test is subject to prior registration.

If you claim, you are allowed to replace parts, frame, motor, propellers, battery, controller, radio in your home developed mini drone and such new developed small drone is exempted from compulsory registration, pls let me know your opinion.

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  • I see, so any rule that the FAA comes up with that cannot be proven to adversely affect safety can be put into effect immediately by the FAA without obtaining or listening to public comment.

    I am afraid our political process has gone terribly wrong <- Gross Understatement!

  • 14 CFR §11.13 allows for the FAA to issue a "Direct Final Rule".

    From the FAA:
    "A direct final rule is a type of final rule with request for comments. Our reason for issuing a direct final rule without an NPRM is that we would not expect to receive any adverse comments, and so an NPRM is unnecessary. However, to be certain that we are correct, we set the comment period to end before the effective date. If we receive an adverse comment or notice of intent to file an adverse comment, we then withdraw the final rule before it becomes effective and may issue an NPRM."

    "I don't like it" is not an adverse comment.

    An adverse comment is one where the petitioner can demonstrate that the proposed rule would adversely affect safety. (That's why it's called an adverse comment).  No one filed an adverse comment to the proposed Part 48 rules that demonstrates how the rule would compromise aviation safety, so it is a final rule.


  • Sorry Ernst,

    The new FAA regulation is about registration of a model aircraft (UAS)



    there have been no tools other than the AMA (which every drone pilot should join)


    If membership in an organization is not compulsory so this is just your private suggestion to inject 1 million new owners of a drone into membership  of AMA.

    No pilot named by the legislation just owner of a drone.


    If you own a drone, you must register it with the Federal Aviation Administration's Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) registry.



    The new regulation for registering yourself as a pilot 


    No pilots, no registration of pilots.

    Please write comments by AMA in another thread


  • ..after following the link to register, I still cannot figure out how to register.  Is it because it is not fully functional yet..  Where do you go where there is some sort of form to complete?

  • Darius: Please stop obfuscating what are simple matters. Your original post that started this more or less worthless thread indicates  total confusion and is confusing others. You are apparently mixing together different classifications of aircraft and their regulations.

    If your point is that in a highly theoretical sense a LHS owner who sets up and test flies say,  a Blade 350 for a customer is engaging in commercial activity, the FAA has never taken that sort of extreme position and isn't doing so now.

    The new regulation for registering yourself as a pilot and marking your number on the aircraft you are flying has nothing to do with anything else. It does not change your ability to do this or that or fly here or there. That's the FAA's entire argument regarding the will of congress, that they are merely listing or keeping track of what's going on, not actually changing a thing. And frankly, that's pretty much what this looks like, I cannot think of a lesser thing that they could even do than this, other than shouting out of their windows to be careful, like a mother yelling at her kids as they go off to school.

     All sorts of people are making much more of this than it is. Meanwhile, there are powerful groups, including people like helicopter pilots, surveyors, traditional aerial photographers, and on and on, along with all their support industries, who are desperately afraid they are about to become irrelevant and obsolete, like farriers in a gas station, and who will do most anything to slow or stop UAS development and propagation. Direct evidence of this lies in the huge proportion of obvious lies in the flow of "incident" reports (debunked by the AMA, by the way).

    I think there are also crusading drone-hating or drone-fearing individuals in these and many many other forums doing their best  to intentionally  incite and divide us, or to at least sow confusion, now in the hope that they can help the registration effort fail, which would carry the threat of something much harsher being deployed. These same forces are hard at work in legislatures from village to federal levels, and they are all over the media. Many a reporter who fancies him/herself a photographer hates drones and will stick a journalistic knife into any one of us and twist it, as can be seen almost daily somewhere. 

    There have been internal calls for a long time for us to police ourselves, but there have been no tools other than the AMA (which every drone pilot should join) with which to do that. Registration might be used as such a tool. And if we don't make complete fools of ourselves in the public's eyes by kicking and screaming and whining like three-year-olds about what everyone else does routinely when they re-up their DL or register their boat or car or licence their dog, for crying out loud, then maybe we can use the fact of our registration to gain some legitimacy and some traction. 

    Finally, the OPs ramblings about the 200 pages being too much for anyone to possibly digest etc. is nonsense. The summarizations cover everything that you need to know, spend a half an hour browsing it and your good to go.  

  • Manned Ultralight aircraft are specifically excluded from registration:

    §103.7(c) Notwithstanding any other section pertaining to registration and marking of aircraft, ultralight vehicles are not required to be registered or to bear markings of any type.

    The main purpose of the registration of model aircraft is to identify the operator in the case of an accident. The identification of an ultralight pilot is usually not a problem.

    Jon - DIY, or Homebuilt, aircraft are required to be registered and assigned an "N" number just like all other manned aircraft (except ultralights).

  • Not do I have an issue with "drone" regulation. In fact I think it is necessary. I've been waiting for it  for, oh, ever since the FAA started the process circa 2009, six or seven year ago if not earlier. This includes the three year period starting in 2012 when congress ordered the FAA to come up with regulations by 2015 ...

  • Stephen: Glad to see you are now at least acknowledging Congress, current law, and Section 336. A significant departure from your earlier post.

    I don't necessarily have a problem with some registration requirements, provided it is properly introduced, debated, and follow processes established by the legal procedures in place in this country.

  • I don't know if manned ultralights need to be registered.  If your flying one and you have know idea what your doing you will be taken out of the gene pool real quick.  All this FAA stuff has come about due to people not using very much common sense and responsibility.


    David R. Boulanger

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