I googled around DIYD trying to find a post on the Mini Talon but couldn't find anything. Not long after the X-UAV Talon the Mini Talon made its debut! So far I've had this backpacked sized drone up for about 30 minutes in a auto mission. Packed with a 4s4000 pack, 8x4.5 prop and a 2216-1250kv Sunny Sky motor it sips about 3 amps. 

After putting my Mini Talon together I ran an autotune. Thanks to the devs for this awesome feature. Makes tuning a whole lot easier. The only thing I had to do was adjust a few things like L1, and touch up on the gains a little bit.

Once I have my airspeed sensor in I'll adjust TECS and start having some fun! 

As part of giving back to the community I've attached my parameter file. 

  • This is for a 1400g Talon Mini, YMMV depending on weight
  • I have about 80/20 Dual Rate / Expo on a switch for manual flying.
  • ArduPlane 3.0.x now introduces AutoTune. I'd HIGHLY suggest using that to tune and then compare to the attached parameters.
  • My Aileron linkages are inside hole (Servo), middle hole (control horn)
  • My Elevator linkages are outside hole (Servo), middle hole (control horn)
  • Check your mode switches and calibrate your radio if you use these parameters.
  • I'm not responsible if the parameters provided crashes your plane

Mini%20Talon%20-%20May%2011th%202014.param

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Comment by Gustav Kuhn on May 14, 2014 at 2:28pm

Hi Scott,

Some of us Talon pilots hang out here...

http://diydrones.com/group/x-uav-talon?

Be nice if we can get all the Talon stuff in one place :-)

Regards,

Gustav


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Comment by Gary Mortimer on May 14, 2014 at 9:22pm

Nice Scott even nicer that you have said where your linkages are. I think its often forgotten that it makes a difference. I really like the talon, its a cracking airframe.

Comment by Scott Fuller on May 14, 2014 at 10:19pm

Gary agreed. I had some straight up barn doors for ailerons on the Mini Talon when I started out. While my P values were very low.. It was a handful to fly in manual mode. This lead to some obnoxious oscillations when performing a Autotune. At that point it was either set my end points on my radio, or move the linkage. The P values are about where I'd expect them after moving the linkages. After dialing in some Expo and Dual Rate the bird is tame in all modes. One other thing I tend to do is trim via the linkage AFTER I've trimmed via the radio.. This allows me to zero out the trims on the radio after I'm done.

I've started to trim the Mini Talon as if it was a pattern plane. It may need a slight bit of down thrust. I'm hoping to add that later on this week and give it another whirl.

Comment by Gustav Kuhn on May 14, 2014 at 11:10pm

Hi Scott, on my big Talon, using the recommended balance point, I had to constantly adjust elevator trim for different speeds.

I moved the batteries around to shift the balance point back one centimeter, and I don't have to touch the trim now.....

Comment by Euan Ramsay on May 15, 2014 at 4:37am

I'm in the market for a long range FPV rig (The Ranger EX is current top place, with rvjet a close 2nd, and a skyhunter 3rd), but would prefer a smaller form factor where possible. My TBS cappy flight experience is a bit "expresso" - I'm looking for "grande latte".

You mentioned 30 mins on 4000mah...could you get this to 60 minutes with a 9-10A pack? Would it even fly without folding the wings?

Comment by Scott Fuller on May 15, 2014 at 8:05am

Euan. The Mini Talon is medium range. We have a guy here in LA that flew his out 5 miles. When I was doing a mission in Auto I covered about 20 miles (in a cirlce). The Mini Talon is more throw and go.

If you want to fly long range I'd suggest the regular Talon. It has the carrying capacity for more than one battery. I've put the regular Talon up for a hour on 8 amps of battery. 

I have a Ranger Ex ready to go with a Pixhawk on board. I'm under instruction to wait until an individual returns from AVUSI before I fly it. 

Comment by marcell de klerk on June 20, 2014 at 1:55am

Hi Scott, I recently bought myself a mini Talon and before that I had a FPV Raptor and I am absolutely loving the mini Talon. My Mini Talon weighs 1600grams with a 850KV motor and a 9x4.5 prop. I unfortunately do not know what make the motor is (there is no make on the motor). Would you say it weighs to much for that motor and prop because I have difficulty hand launching it in no wind or am I not throwing it correctly?

Comment by Gustav Kuhn on June 20, 2014 at 6:00am

Marcell, what battery are you using?

Comment by Scott Fuller on June 20, 2014 at 10:04am

I wouldn't say that 1600 is to much. Just probably takes a hefty toss. I crashed one due to an APM issue. My new Mini-T has landing gear on it so I can RoG. It's a blast. 

Comment by marcell de klerk on June 20, 2014 at 11:27am
I use a 4s 5000mah zippy compact

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