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HobbyKing released a launcher for $23 which is nice and cheap.

 

Its a bit small for something like a Skywalker X8 but I recon if you buy two and make a big one, one can launch a Skywalker X8.

 

You can see it here

 

 

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  • Building a 16 foot long, 4"x4" tube cat for a 30 pound "drone" will use commercial bungee jump components. Arming pin in trigger design with manual foot launch. Will let you know how it turns out.
  • Sorry that is all I know., see the video

     

    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/HK_movies2.asp?idmovie=91d...

     

  • Thanks.I know that info, but not GF tubing ext. and int. diameters.

  • Dimensions once Assembled:
    Ramp Length - 1060mm
    height at rear - 240mm
    height at front -  460mm
    width of launch rails - 470mm

    Material:

    Ramp - GF Tubing with Plastic Joiners
    Foot Launch System - Ply with surgical rubber hose (2 metres)

  • Could you tell me ext. and int. frame tubes diameters?

  • But it's not going to sell unless it's 3D printed.  Laser cutting is too 2009.

  • We are building one, and we have found to work the best is using skateboard truncts and wheels and bearings running inside a aluminium housing, as for the servo Idea I think you would have to use one hell of a strong servo, I won't go there personally because its just excess stuff to cary and setup and yes there is the human factor. 

  • Moderator

    Hi Trung

    interesting comments.

    I have always been a believer in either bungee or catapult launch for safety and a positive launch. I totally agree that anything is better than a hand launch and like others I have the scars to prove it. My system has a foot operated or pull cord release, both work very well and safely.

    The problem with automating this process is that the human aspect gets in the way. a kiddie suddenly runs in front of the launch area, you spot that the aircraft is not in the bungee, someone lands in your path etc. thats when someone gets badly hurt or killed. with an automated system you have to do an action to STOP the launch, with a manual system you do nothing. that is a huge difference in terms of safety engineering. 

    The APM is great, BUT it is not and never will be a failsafe device. eventually a failure will occur and the system will launch at the wrong time. Bungees are more dangerous to the aircraft and people because they cannot be stopped and they cover a large area, some are 50-60 metres long . the aircraft can be dragged at low level for the entire distance for example if a motor or battery failed.

    A catapult is a short range device that can be used with less danger but they can still kill. I designed my catapult to be as safe as possible with security pins etc but I still will never pass in front of it when its loaded. just the same as I will never point a gun at anyone..check these videos!

     http://youtu.be/u4uIrzS5yr0 

    http://youtu.be/jH0WQHQoadc 

  • 100KM

    dwg,

    I don't think an automated launch assist system needs to be considered inherently more dangerous than hand launching a pusher prop wing, for example.  Like everything else, the hardware and software would need to be properly designed/operated, and safety features added where needed.  Arduplane itself is, of course, a controller capable of fully autonomous control of aircraft and vehicles traveling much faster than 20-25mph.  It is constantly making decisions without user input.  There is risk throughout the process of power up, launch, flight, and landing - all of which needs to be considered and minimized.  I would even argue that a properly designed, remotely operated bungee launch system could enhance safety over launching planes from close proximity - hand or bungee.

    Gary,

    Cool vid, but that launcher is on the other extreme of automated complexity.  Is it necessary?  The aircraft can take off vertically.  It seems like you just need something to point it up.  Is there perhaps a requirement to eventually stage and stow the aircraft with zero human presence?

    Sorry to the OP for going so far OT.

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    The best automated launch system on the horizon is this one

    Tad Mc Geer will be talking about it at sUSB Expo at the end of the week in SFC. Chris A will also be speaking.

    The best recovery system out there is the Scan Eagle skyhook.

    I find a small ridge or hill assists in launching wings, along with a light wing loading...

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