Folks,
As you know the FAA is midway in a long rulemaking process to figure out how to integrate UAVs in the national airspace, but the bottom line from the inititial recommendations are as follows:
For us (non-commerical hobbyists), you must stay within these limitations:
--fly within line of sight
--under 400' alt
--under 30 knots
--under 4.4lb
--Fly at least 3 miles from any airport
As you're designing your airframes, keep these limits in mind!
Funnily enough, we use a balloon for stills photos sometimes and have joked that we have string altitude and position hold. It wanders about in the breeze a little so I guess we now need IMU string.
But if I get any commercial gain, lets say I'm a real estate agent and I take photos of the properties I am going to sell?? I'm not selling the pictures to myself but I would be benefiting from their appeal, otherwise why would I bother??
From fullsize I know commercial gain can become a thorny subject.
No you can hobby AP right up to the runway if you get permission. Hobby anything has to fit into the AMA safety code. If you aren't operating under the code, you get less.
RE: the head in the sand.
No one really likes to hear this stuff but... the reality is that we are going to have to deal with it. Regulatory denial I guess.
The AMA has their hands full with just keeping the regular show rolling. They have shown (AMA) with FPV that they are willing to entertain new ideas and technology. It is the FAA and not the AMA that are the problem. The FAA, manned interests and the vendors have no interest in seeing open source type autopilots flying in the NAS. Certification will more than likely be developed within the framework of the ASTM and or RTCA. All of your buddies populate the committees and it is a multi-year commitment to work in. The SRM panel has the recommendation now and no, we don’t have many friends on that panel.
The rest of the world is not getting it either. e.g. Eurocae or CAP 722
What's the framework to get something certified Patrick?? Guess Ardupilot users should club together and pay for one unit to get through. I suppose that means though that only units assembled in a certain place would be legal??
Is it that the AMA wants nothing to do with hobby UAS??
Not even on there fields??
Lets hope the rest of the world does not follow.
You do realise there is a rest of the world over there??
May want to give the document a reread as there are no provisions for hobby UAV/UAS or non-commercial operations.
1. Definitions
Model aircraft A sUAS used by hobbyists and flown within visual line-of-sight under direct control from the pilot, which can navigate the airspace, and which is manufactured or assembled, and operated for the purpose of sport and recreation.
Any non-certified autonomous aids are verboten! No one knows what certification will look like.
We'll have to trust the FAA on that one...
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From fullsize I know commercial gain can become a thorny subject.
Cheers
G
RE: the head in the sand.
No one really likes to hear this stuff but... the reality is that we are going to have to deal with it. Regulatory denial I guess.
You will have to blag us into one of the cocktail parties.
Must admit I am amazed at how low the reponse to this is across the forums.
Head in sand I guess.
Whats the situation with AP then??
Anything commercial, becomes a UAS therefore no allowed?
The rest of the world is not getting it either. e.g. Eurocae or CAP 722
Is it that the AMA wants nothing to do with hobby UAS??
Not even on there fields??
Lets hope the rest of the world does not follow.
You do realise there is a rest of the world over there??
1. Definitions
Model aircraft A sUAS used by hobbyists and flown within visual line-of-sight under direct control from the pilot, which can navigate the airspace, and which is manufactured or assembled, and operated for the purpose of sport and recreation.
Any non-certified autonomous aids are verboten! No one knows what certification will look like.
We'll have to trust the FAA on that one...
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