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Should we put an end to requiring a traditional Tx for Multicopters?

Started by Edgar Scott. Last reply by DG 4 hours ago. 41 Replies

Unless I'm mistaken I feel that diydrones would rather all flights use a Tx, but are we not very close to a point where we can to put an end of the Tx for drone multirotors as the primary flying…Continue

Building Copters with Round Tubes - Stronger, Lighter, Easier to Mount Motors than Square Tubes

Started by Forrest Frantz. Last reply by cj yesterday. 215 Replies

Round tubes offer the following pros:handle twist better than square tubes.  Thus for the strength, are far lighter.are more readily available (pipes, tubes, arrows, kite frames, golf clubs and…Continue

Build APM 2.6 for data logger

Started by Vitalii S.. Last reply by Vitalii S. on Wednesday. 8 Replies

Hi!I want to build small data logger for our plans. We want to use it on light gliders so every additional gram and mm has great importance. It should be really small, like 50*40*5 mm  or less ( I…Continue

How to load a param file into Mission Planner

Started by Bud Zirkle. Last reply by Phillip Toone on Tuesday. 5 Replies

I'm a newbie here and not quite sure how to go about loading a param file into Mission Planner.  Don't see any options under the Configuration tab to do that.  I'm sure I'm missing something…Continue

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Comment by Doug Walmsley yesterday

I will recommend that the feature be enabled by default and operators may go into "Configure tab" and disable from view.  I do however feel that it should be automatically turned back on when the operator flies up to 400" AGL and once below that the circles will disappear.   

Comment by Charles lakins yesterday

yes that's true perhaps an altitude ceiling be imposed from the data collected for the specific areas reported, the markings would be still there and flight possible but a sort of geofence be applied for altitude in the effected area


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Comment by Nathaniel Caner yesterday

Hi Charles,

NOTAMS etc. while informative are really directed at pilots of full scale aircraft. If we are staying below the 400' ceiling, as I know we all do right, this shouldn't be a problem. I don't want to start a debate here about the legal or ethical issues. As such I'm not going to respond further. I will say however that I agree with the spirit of your statement. It is the responsibility of each individual to be aware of any and all restrictions that effect their ability to fly in the NAS. As such I think having the ability to turn off the markings identifying these zones to be acceptable. It could be made like any GPS device these days. Every time you turn on MP and navigate to an effeted zone the markings are displayed, then you are made aware of the restriction and can act accordingly.
It should also be noted that there are two AMA sanctioned club fields in these zones within 25 miles of where Doug lives, he might even be a member of one of them. If model aircraft weren't permitted to fly at all within the zone AMA wouldn't sanction the site.

Regards,
Nathaniel ~KD2DEY

Comment by Charles lakins yesterday

I don't think an option to turn off should be addressed or added

since they are regulated no fly zones anyway ,by turning off you knowingly break the regulations

just one quote from the link you provided:

PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES MAY BE INTERCEPTED, DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL. ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL ACTIONS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN AGAINST A PILOT WHO DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OR ANY SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS OR PROCEDURES ANNOUNCED IN THIS NOTAM


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Comment by Nathaniel Caner yesterday

@Doug,

Yeah that's what's going on for sure. I looked a bit further and that commit pulls TFR Overlay information from http://www.jepptech.com/tfr/Query.asp?UserID=Public If you go browse that location and read some of the TFRs you will quickly see they correspond with the zones we are now seeing in the MP. Wish I had better news, best raise an issue and lets hope we get the option to turn it off!

Regards,

Nathaniel ~KD2DEY


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Comment by Nathaniel Caner yesterday

@Doug,

I am by no means an expert, however I took a look at the MP code looking for anything that might explain this. What I found may have nothing to do with the situation, however it might be a place to start. About 10 days ago there was a commit that added "TFRs" (TemporaryFlightRestrictions). You can browse this code addition  here as well as other history. I see other references recently to TFRs, so I think this is something that the devs have been working on for a while. Hopefully it's just something that made it in to the current release without creating an option to turn it off. I wouldn't be very pleased if I lived in an area that was 'blacked' out by one of these zones.

Hope they give us the option to turn it off soon :)

Have you posted an issue yet, if not post one here?

Regards,

Nathaniel ~KD2DEY

Comment by Richard Kennedy yesterday

Doug

I assume you looked into going to an earlier version?

All I can say oh boy.... here we go.

Comment by Doug Walmsley on Wednesday

@ Nathaniel and @Paul,

This crazy feature can not be turned off.  I went into Configure tab and deselected "Show Airports" and only the broken rings around airports disappeared.

I live inside the outer ring of this large and circle and can barely see anything under it.  This is annoying to say the least.


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Comment by Nathaniel Caner on Wednesday

@Doug,

I believe that is identifying the Washington, DC Metropolitan Area Special Flight Rules Area (or the "ADIZ" Air Defense Identification Zone).

I don't think there is a way to disable it. You can turn off the airports, but I don't see a way to disable the display of these zones. It's interesting that it doesn't effect the Flight Planning page, just the Flight Data page. That really makes the Flight Data screen unusable for the Baltimore area in the zone.

Regards,

Nathaniel ~KD2DEY

Comment by Paul G. on Wednesday

It is the airport overlay, if you hover your pointer over the red circles they will show you the airport name.  Baically to show you when you are close to an airport. You can turn it off in the configuration tab, as detailed in this post:

http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/mission-planner-1-3-2

 
 
 

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