3DR telemetry no longer supported by 3DR....options?

I have been using the 915mhz telemetry v2 units with my Pixhawk for a while now.  One of them is not giving the range that it used to and I need a replacement.

I varified the range with the use of my Fighting Walrus iDrone Link and one unit is getting about 100m range while the other is getting good signal to where my hexacopter is just a spec in the distance.

Problem 1:

I can not get hold of Fighting Walrus any more.  They have not answered my emails since about October of 2015.  I am assuming they are no longer active? (also no updates to their iOS app for almost a year)

Problem 2:

3DR are no longer making their 900 or 433 telemetry units. (verified vie an email to them)

"Hello Justin,

Thank you for contacting 3DRobotics customer service.

We apologize for the inconvenience. Unfortunately, we do not have the Telemetry available anymore since they have been discontinued, both the 915 and 433."

I am using a Nexus 7 v2 Tablet with the Tower App (great app by the way)

Question:

Other than the $250 long range 900mhz kits (I don't need/am not allowed to use super long range) or $10 knock 3DR off kits from China (gamble as to whether you get a good one/no warranty), what options are there that are "PnP" ?

I am using a Taranis Plus TX with x8r RX and could use that telemetry but then there is no way to load missions in the field.

Thanks for input

J

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As long as the DIY drone enthusiast is not "involved" in the "evolving" right?!

http://diydrones.com/group/arduboat-user-group?xg_source=activity

http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/last-sell-for-many-legacy-3dr-p...

http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/notification-my-community-support...

As soon as the "New Gen Pixhawk" is out, there will be no more up to date DIY from 3DR it seems.

You guys make great stuff.  WTF is going on at 3DR?????

J

Hi Chris

The Posts in here are very confusing!

We use your Pixhawk Autopilot systems on our fixed wing Planes and our Quads, which is the backbone of our business. We are not concerned about the Telemetry or Video links, as these we can get from another source. What we are concerned about is the continuation of the Pixhawk Autopilot system and Missionplanner\Tower for a Company like ourselves who build their own UAV's.

Please lay your cards on the Table and let us know if we should look for alternative Autopilot systems.

Kind Regards

Michael

They have clearly said no more DIY.

They have also indicated they are not into consumer quadcopters any longer - Solo never gained traction or market share.

Read between the lines. That means they are not the old 3DR nor the new one. Rather they are looking for a direction to go to salvage some of the work done and money spent.

Just curious where you read this? 

Chris said no more DIY.

Chris made it clear they weren't really into consumer quads any longer and that they were going to try something new in enterprise that may come to fruition in 5 years.

Chris said lots of other things. Employees have also. Investors have also talked to me (I'm an industry blogger). 

What specifically is it that you are asking about "where did I read"?

If it's Solo sales you are talking about, I read clearly that they intended to put a dent in DJI's market share with up to 100K units sold in 2015. I read that they considered themselves #2 in consumer quadcopters worldwide. I read that they thought they were going to become worth a billion dollars soon since they hired the world's leading UAV designer and were going to leapfrog everything else on the market. 

None of those panned out. The numbers and statement are printed in forbes, fortune, etc. and spoken on Fox Business, etc.

Sales numbers are visible on Amazon (rank) and in many other ways.

Is there a part of the statement that you disagree with? I can try to provide more exacting info. 

My only point here is that folks seem to be mixed up by a lot of these conflicting actions and statements and should understand the basics behind them. Again, these have been stated by Chris and 3DR but you'd have to listen (to videos, blog posts here and elsewhere, tweets, etc.)

"Chris said they were going to try something new in enterprise that may come to fruition in 5 years." 

At this point it should be obvious that Craig is just making things up. Craig, post the evidence that I said that (which doesn't exist) or apologize and retract.  

I'm waiting.

 

you just make it up as you go along. running around the internet berating 3DR and the Solo. spewing bullshit as if they are fact. like you're big time and all. When the truth is you are a loser. Tell DJI you need some more help.

You have to wonder, how much effect did his, and the bigfoot's,  continual bashing of Solo and 3DR contribute to less than expected success of the Solo. I have been mostly happy with my Solo, and completely happy with 3DR's customer support. Only negative I have is that the weather and my schedule keep me from flying more. Mind you, Craig's comments are all 2nd hand. He neither owns one, or to my knowledge, has any real flight time with one.

I agree about 3dr’s customer support. I’ve had about the best experience one could ask for from them. Contrast that to my brother who has now had not one… not two… but FIVE fly-aways with his phantoms! Each one had a gopro and a gimbal and fpv. That’s a LOT of money wasted!! No way to retrieve a log on the couple he recovered to find out what happened. No help from Dji. I watched one destroy itself while I was with him in FL. Despite the fact the battery was full and the HUD confirmed this it would not respond to throttle and dunked itself right into the salt water of the gulf. The next one just stopped spinning the motors at around 100 feet. The other 3 were too far away he has no idea what happened. I would have been done with them on the second one! Meanwhile I’m still flying the same DIY pixhawk quad I built 2-3 years ago. When the phantom is working it’s awesome it’s a fantastic gopro platform no doubt about it but between them being un-reliable and virtually non existent customer support there’s no way I’d put my money in Dji.  If anybody wants an idea of how many people have lost their phantoms look on eBay at home many tranmistters there are for sale LOL

The vast majority of the Solo market probably have never heard of Craig or Bigfoot.  Those that have heard of them probably understand them.  Two people, unless they have credibility, can't have much effect on a market of this size. 

My first purchase was an APM 2.0 that I fly on a self-build quad and I still have. I didn't fly for a couple of years because of other commitments so I didn't own 2.5 up.  I now also have an Iris+.   I own no other FC's than 3DR because I have had no reason to switch.

I've searched and read all that I can find on the future of 3DR, Dronecode  and any other related entity.  All of Chris A's post and Rob L's recent post have me more confused than ever.  I'm just purchasing as much quality 3DR spares as I can afford.  While there are some good clones, they are are to find among so much bad. 

The quality of 3DR gear and this site has meant that I've never needed to call 3DR for support.  I understand that there are instances like a DOA part would cause the need for a call but obviously, people are calling for support far more than I would have imagined and I can't understand that.  Except that people have been trained to want instant gratification and to do nothing for themselves to learn. 

I'd say we had about zero effect on Solo success or failure.

As Chris has noticed, DJI smoked them. And they smoked themselves with late and flawed deliveries. 

Mind you, also, some of the people directly involved in the project and who fly many a Solo have reached out to me. Just because you are not having a building falling on you in an earthquake doesn't mean the event didn't happen (or does it).

All these conversations are, IMHO, about certain fighting for the crumbs and the scraps...as well as anger from those who don't like the way capitalism works. 

I've said it before and will repeat it. I would have taken the money myself and tried to make 3DR a billion dollar company. Only a fool or very strong hearted person would have the fortitude to "stand down" in the face of the drone boom. 3DR took that chance and failed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with failure - against paraphrasing Chris - he partnered with the wrong guy (Mexico) instead of China. He (as the leader all problems are his) also hired some of the wrong people and made many other mistakes....like we all do.

He shot for the moon and missed. That's what people have been doing for thousands of years. No praise no blame.

Where we stop learning the lessons is if such is denied, IMHO.

Anyway, I'm not here (at diy) to pontificate or argue. I do that elsewhere. This is 3DR's (actually not - it's Chris's) platform and I will leave the spinning to him.

I may be paraphrasing, but certainly not making things up. I have a memory like a.....

Now you are gonna make me have to watch those CES and other vids to find your statement - it was something like "we knew all along that consumer stuff was a stepping stone and the plan was always about the cloud, data, iot, commercial, enterprise, etc. which we are now on the path to and expect to be a very profitable market in 5 years.

If that doesn't ring a bell from one of your talks (perhaps at Autodesk?, CES?) then I will dig.

I'm as confused as everyone else because, frankly, your own statements don't even agree with your own statements. You mentioned ramping up Solo and more stuff in China. Is 3DR currently ramping up hardware production in China at Jabil? 

Anyway, this is your platform. I'm just trying to explain to those scratching their heads - that we ALL are scratching our heads. I'll do my writing mostly elsewhere but will take you up on looking for that part about how you knew all along that the consumer market was a stepping stone. That, BTW, conflicts 100% with your own web site and hundreds of statements and forecasts from 3DR.

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