Newly built Y6B with APM 2.6 Issue

So I have been flying around with my APM 2.6 in the spider quad layout for a little over a year now. Recently I decided to upgrade it to a Y6B format. All new ESCs and new motors. After soldering up the ESCs and motors, making sure their rotation direction was correct, I proceeded to setup the APM for the Y6B configuration. All seemed good, Frame type set to a value of 10. Now for the problem, my APM will not output to motors 5 & 6 at all. I tested all 6 motors directly to my receiver, and they respond as expected, so no problem there. When I first boot the APM, it says "Frame: QUAD". This doesn't seem right does it? I tried setting it to frame type 1, no change. I even tried loading the default settings for the Y6B, and still nothing on outputs 5 & 6. I am running BLHeli firmware version 14.3 on the ESCs. Is there another setting somewhere I need to change for the Y6 format besides the frame option?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg55iPv9As0

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