Tuning help for my Quadcopter

I'm looking for a little help with tuning my Quadcopter.  It's a little too big to tune while holding (or suspended in a jig) so I've had to resort to tuning it in the air.  I'm new to this whole process and have been having a really hard time getting my quad dialed in.  It flies in "stabilize" mode but drifts around quite a bit (I am constantly having to adjust the pitch and roll to keep it from drifting away).  Besides the drifting around I am also getting some sporadic twitching of the copter during flight.  I have worked very hard to balance all the props well.  Even though I've mounted my APM 2.5 on foam for vibration dampening I have chosen to load 2.8.1 Arducopter instead of 2.9.1 because I haven't really proven whether vibrations are low enough yet.  

Here's the specs of my quad...

APM 2.5 running 2.8.1 ArduCopter

3DR uBlox LEA-6 GPS

MB1260 XL-MaxSonar-EZL0 High Performance Ultrasonic Range Finder (with noise filter resistor/cap)

Dual AEO U5 5V/5A UBECs (one powering the APM 2.5 and one powering LED Nav lighting) 

RCTimer SK-30A SimonK Firmware Multicopter 30 Amp ESCs.

RCTimer BC3530-14 1100KV Outrunner Brushless Motors.

RCTimer 915Mhz Telemetry Radios

A two axis carbon fiber camera gimbal with a Sony Action Cam mounted.

29 1/2" Prop shaft to Prop shaft diagonal width.

11 x 4.7 Props.

Powered by one 3S 6000mAh Turnigy Nantech LiPo  (I get roughly 15 - 17 minutes of casual flight and 11 - 14 minutes of more aggressive flight). 

RC Gear - Spektrum DX6i with 6 Channel Rcvr

Home built frame made of 3/4" square aluminum tubes and two 1/16" thick 6" square aluminum plates.

The Quad is set up in an "X" flight mode.  The default PID values were where I started and I've been adjusting away from them with little or no change to the flight characteristics I described above. Here's a screenshot of where I am currently with the Arducopter tuning values.  

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Here's a photo of my Quadcopter for reference.

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I don't really know how my copter compares to the 3DR ArduCopter Quad setup as I haven't really compared the specs.

Any help that the members of this community can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken

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  • MR60

    Nice Build!

    For large copters I'm putting together a paper on how to tune because our parameters can be distant from normal.  Until that happens, follow what I just replied to another conversation.

    http://diydrones.com/group/arducopterusergroup/forum/topics/quad-wo... 

    You will find a rough draft in that conversation.  If you need photos of the setups, let me know.  I'm trying to complete US taxes right now so am a little distracted from having fun.

  • MR60

    Hello,

    When are you getting the twitching ? In alt hold ? If yes, try disabling the sonar. That happened to me with same sonar model as yours. Once disabled everything worked fine. I find out that the sonar is actually worthless and useless.

    Your parameters look strange. I have for a 3DR based quad frame, 880Kv motors, 4S 4500mah, 11x4,7 props : Rate_P:0,16 / Rate_I=Rate_P / Rate_D: 0,009 (you have ten times less D rate, weird)

    I also have very different Throttle rate P and altitude P, respectively : 6 and 2 (you have more than 10 times less!!)

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