People (such as our own Paul Gregory--see his build tips here) have tended to go straight for the larger Cularis in seach of room and lifting power for bigger cameras and more electronics, but Stewart Long from Pict'Earth, who tried that, has just written in with some cautionary advice and a surprising recommendation.
He says:
"The increased size of the Cularis has not allowed us to use larger cameras that we could with the Easy Glider. the wings are larger, and with more lift, but the Cularis that we set up was too nose heavy , even without a camera. We tried counterbalancing the setup by placing the servos in the rear of the plane, but the plane remains overly nose heavy. We have also had a difficult time with the wing spar, servo connection and latch mechanism. Because of this the plane flutters a little bit like the Easy Star.
So, the Cularis provides some interesting features, but I see a lot more bang
for the buck with the Easy Glider. The materials cost is half with the Easy
Glider, the flight of the wing is great, and the center of gravity in the Easy
Glider allows for more tinkering. From an RC operations standpoint it was not
very difficult for me to start using the Easy Glider after starting with the
Easy Star.
Here is the setup for the Cularis:
- Motor Dymond Gunther
- ESC Hacker 70
- Prop Cam 14X9.5
- Lipo generic 2s3p (2 cell x3)
- (Approx 450 watts, with 75 degree climb.)
Easy Glider (photo setup shown):
- Motor: "Mega 16/15/8"
- Speed Controller: Castle Creations "Phoenix" 25 Amp
- Propeller: 10-11inch folding carbon
- Lipo: 3 Cell 2100 mAh
Easy Star:
- Motor: "Multiplex Permax 480-4D , and Multiplex Permax 480-6D. The 4D is more powerful, and will fly a heavier plane. With the 4-D full throttle is too high, I take off with about 60% throttle. The disadvantage to the 4-D is that it wears down the lipo battery over time. This has not proven to be a big problem though, because we have lost batteries at a higher rate"
- Speed Controller: "Castle Creations Thunderbird" 36 Amp
- Propeller: 6/4 plastic. "The first number is for thrust, the second number is for speed. The higher the number, the higher the value. For our platforms we want to have more thrust than speed."
- Lipo: 3 Cell 2100 mAh
Comments
I was thinking also about to use the Multiplex Twin-Start II, but people dont like how it flies...
I am just worried about easy reconstruction (to do a lot of testing...)
Easy landing (We want to program an autolanding) using differential GPS and three or 4 ultrasound sensors... So its nice & sweet if its able to land on its belly on the smooth grass :)
The only point I dont like of the Easy Star is the no-ailerons...and for control I like inputs... that's all...
So Maximum payload using a nice Brushless Motor and a high thrust Propeller?
Any experience with Twin Start II ???
Thank you for everything!
I would like to know about your experience reaching the payload limit and fitting complications using the different Multiplex versions or other nice foamie models:
-Easy Star
-Easy Glider
-Easy Glider Pro
-Cularis
-Any other foamie model that you consider nice to carry a lot of electronic stuff?????
Thank you!!
I originally chose the Cularis (not on the basis of any real experience) because I assumed that a larger airframe would be more stable in flight for my photmapping. Only time will tell.
Paul
I started on an EasyStar, which is a delight. The EG increases the payload size and still has great flying characteristics for me.
Paul
Thanks for the tip. For those who don't know it, the Multiplex Cargo is a four-motor transport that Multiplex made a few years ago. Now discontinued:
http://www.multiplexusa.com/models/Discontinued/Cargo.htm
Nice and smooth to fly- Plenty of space for equipment.
With a different power set you would have a real nice
platform for DIY UAV.
I just have this one to play and learn for now-
There is a FPV with down-link- and a stills camera in the cargo bay (kind of pushing the limits for the motor set thats on it) and still plenty of room.
Only a few modifications are needed from the factory build instructions- two most important being the battery positioning and the second being how you attach the wings to the main fuselage.
My two cents are that most multiplec models, given a little modification take a lot of hassle out of creating something that already exists- mainly a nice smooth flying plane/glider.
cheers
mike