Hello Diy Drones Universe,
This is Joshua Johnson CEO and Founder of CAD Drones, LLC and CADDrones.com "The Open Source website for CAD and Drones". We are 19-21 days away from having our Drone Product go LIVE on Kickstarter.com! Right now CADDrones.com is moving along but without the help and ideas of volunteers in the Drone Industry we don't know which direction we should go moving forward. Being a volunteer for CAD Drones, LLC and CADDrones.com will give you the opportunity and expirience in shaping our website into what you feel is best for the International Drone Community. Our website's focus is on CAD, 3D Printing, and Drones and meshing them together under one roof. We are trying to build an Open Source environment that will benefit the Drone Industry for decades to come! Once our Kickstarter Campaign is underway we are going full steam ahead with the consulting side of our Drone Tech Company and turning volunteer positions into paid positions. We are looking for volunteers with various expertise and strengths that believe they have what it takes to help build a Drone Product, Company, and website into a success! We can't unveil our product to the volunteers or public until we get closer to the Kickstarter Campaign Launch. Volunteers who we feel share our same passion to advance our website CADDrones.com and also to build a reliable resource for the Drone Industry will more than likely see their volunteer positions transition into paid positions after the launch of our Product on Kickstarter!
What Volunteer Positions We Need Filled:
- 1 Graphic Designer ( Someone who is willing to help us turn CADDrones.com into a visually appealing website and someone who is interested in using their Graphic Design talents to create information graphic pieces that can be used to educate our website members about various topics )
- 1 Wikipedia Administrator ( Someone who is good with organizing and structuring research and factual pieces/information from multiple sources under one depository in an organized, useful, and educational manner )
- 1 Lead Moderator ( Someone to build, manage, and organize a small team of volunteer moderators )
- 3 Moderators ( 3 Moderators besides the Lead Moderator who are willing to work as a team to decide on category names and organize and come up with a structured plan for the Forums, Blogs, Photos, and News Page so its a useful tool for our members )
- 5 Website Developers ( 5 Web Dev's willing to use their Programming skills to create HTML and code based features for CADDrones.com that will assist and educate the commercial and/or hobby Drone Community )
- 5 Business Advisors ( 5 people are willing to mentor me by sharing advice and ideas with me to help CAD Drones, LLC grow and prosper )
- 5 CAD/3D Printing Specialists ( 5 people with skills in CAD and/or 3D Printing who are willing to donate their time by creating blogs, forum posts, and assist our members who are using CAD and 3D Printing to help assist in their drone projects. You will be also be in charge of build up our CAD File Database with useful files for our community )
(**If you would like to volunteer for a position you feel is needed on CADDrones.com but is not listed below please email me your position idea and how you would fit the role**)
If helping the CAD Drones Community and joining an up and coming Drone Start-up Company as a volunteer and possible future employee is something that interests you please feel free to email a "creative resume" to me at: JoshuaAllenJohnson@Gmail.com or post it on our Volunteer Blog Post.
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And that's precisely why this situation exists. Desperation.
The reason why companies need to reconsider this whole idea, is because they need to ask themselves... does offering unpaid internships get them the best quality candidates? Or do they only get the desperate ones? Not making a statement about you at all Mustafa, just raising the point.
I did 4 internships while in University. All of them paid.
Canada is actually starting to take action on this, cracking down on this slave labour. The problem started creeping up when companies began to think that since they were not paying their interns, they were not employees, and thus not technically required to obey the labour laws. Some of them were asking their interns to do dangerous or demeaning tasks. In two cases, interns died after falling asleep driving home after a long shift where the "employer" was not following the rules about hours of work, rest time, between shifts, etc.
These unpaid internships in Canada are now only legal if they are quite rigorously tied to educational programs, with real training.
If Northrop Grumman would ask me to be an intern but for free when i was a student, i would be a slave and would not ask for a penny sir:)
PS: I would do the same to the Lockheed Martin.
But at Northrop Grumman, we pay all our interns. As a hard R&D and engineering Corporation, I believe the head honchos feel its important to foster students on track to enter the aviation industry. And generally speaking I think they feel its part of being a good corporate citizen.
So far as I understand it (personal opinion),I believe "intern" is essentially synonymous with trainee. Calling them "interns", implies that part of their pay is knowledge and expertise that you the employer impart to the intern. Internship should be a two way relationship, where you put knowledge into the intern and they use it for your benefit.
But in your ad you asked for skilled professionals, not trainees.
Personally I work in every state in the conus mostly all remote telework. Being remote is no excuse for not being paid. Everyone has to eat. If I got told to go fix California, but we're not paying you because you're in Florida, well, I'd go find another employer tomorrow.
I think that if you reworded your request you might get some bites. Sounds like a fun project. But how its worded; you're looking for unpaid employee/trainees but the expertise required is for professionals who have free time (volunteers). Most potenials are not going to want to enter into an unpaid contract (internship) when they already have a real job.
Anyways, enough typing on my phone. All my words are my own and I'm not representing any policies or official stance of any one else. So don't go to NGC and tell them that bill says I can be an intern. Haha
BTW I'm not piggy backing off of others work. I'm letting people know that I have built a specialized website that their projects would be helpful on. We are building a resource for the community not trying to build something of value.
@Nigel,
How about you go back over a 3-4 year span and read every comment I've ever written. I've done 100 times more helping then I have promoting. Just because I recently began this venture and started working and collaborating about it doesn't mean you can take my most recent comments on blogs and say thats all I've ever done as a member of DiyDrones.com
This blog has been edited to reflect the change in our campaign.
I created a new blog to reflect changes in our campaign for "Volunteers" and it got approved but then instantly deleted... :(
Unpaid Internships are evil. 20+ unpaid internships for company with one unpaid CEO, is quite dubious.
Joshua, true I am not sure what your plans are. What they are anybodies guess. But time and time again you make posts to this site promising this, and that, and you never deliver on those promises.
I'm a developer, so don't hold it against me. I spend lots of time helping others, with nothing in return. Also being a developer does not exclude me from my own opinions.
I'm not hijacking your post. You asked for 20+ Interns with a promise of a job. I think that is disingenuous, and I felt that I should warn others that this is the case. Its hard being a graduate in todays market, (and even so when I graduated, and maybe that's the reason I feel passionate about it) So spending time for others gain really motivates me to speak out.
If any graduate is reading this, and interested in drones and playing with Ardupilot, APM Planner, etc... please send me a PM, as I would more than be happy to help, for free.
I don't really want to wade into this fray, but I feel a need to stick in my 2 cents.
I don't know about other countries, but in the US, a lot of so called educational internships were utterly perverted, often with the Companies who did benefit big time interestingly turning out to be major contributors to the schools.
This way you could get ripped off by both the schools and the companies at the same time And they did rip you off.
The public licensing of professionals like guidance counselors requires thousands of hours of ""Volunteer"" social work - another rip off.
My wife got ripped off by the first one by her prestigious Mills College and our daughter is getting ripped off by the second one for thousands of hours of free social work.
OK having gotten that out of the way, I tend to think Joshua's post here wasn't intended to be exploitative (certainly no where near to the normal degree).
I really do think he is looking for a collaborative effort and from his previous efforts I would expect to see some sort of sharing going on, I think his use of the concept and term intern was an error or naive and he would have just been better off asking for some help and opening up a bit.
We are pretty good at responding to that.
Many of us devote (incredible) numbers of hours here doing what we do essentially for free, maybe with a faint hope of getting something back, but mostly just so we can contribute to what we feel is a worthy cause.
Bill, I truly understand and sympathize with your point, but I think reality is that it might be a good idea to let Joshua reconsider his approach to us and re-post with a more appealing - appeal.
And Joshua, from your standpoint, I would certainly like to hear what your actually interested in doing and see whether participation could be mutually beneficial.
I am going to suggest you simply delete this post (your the author you can do that), then think about a less loaded way of approaching this group and try again so we can avoid this whole ethical thing.
Honestly, Best Regards and take another shot - Please,
Gary
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