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Announcing APM 2.5!

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I’m pleased to announce the new APM 2.0 revision, better known as APM2.5!

But before you start screaming that you just got an APM 2.0, let me explain that there’s NO difference in performance at all between the two, the board is still the same in terms of functionally and it runs exactly the same code as APM 2.0. We just took the liberty of throwing in a few new universal connectors in there (so accessories can be cross compatible with the new PX4 and protect the user from connecting the cable in the wrong direction), some production improvements that will allows to manufacture it faster and finally we added some protection features to protect it from those reverse polarity/short circuit lovers.

Here goes the full list of changes (you already know all its features):

  • No more shield/daughterboard: magnetometer and dataflash were moved to the main board, making it easier to assemble, repair and hack. 
  • No more on-board GPS, but we added a new 6-pins DF13 connector for our new GPS cable standard (PX4) and kept the old but reliable Molex (EM-406) connector for old GPS compatibility. 
  • The old radio-modem connector is gone and now is being replaced by our new 6-pins DF13 connector (like the GPS, because both are UART’s. Got it?), this will make it compatible with PX4 and prevents users from blowing up the UART mux. 
  • We added a second protection fuse and diode (you are no longer required to solder it yourself) for extra reverse polarity and short circuit protection. 
  • The old I2C connector is gone and has been replaced by our new 4-pins DF13 connector (yeah PX4 compatible. Oh wait correction… None of both (PX4 & APM2.5) are compatible with each other, we created this standard together as a team, but I have to give the average of the credits to PX4). 
  • Added a “mystery” 6-pin DF13 Connector that will be used later. I know you like surprises so please stay tuned. No big deal but is really cool and will save you some soldering here and there. 
  • Added “Magnetometer Jumper” that allows you to disable the on-board magnetometer, so you can attach an external one. 
  • Added extra LED attached to the PPM encoder (Atmega32-U2) on pin PC7. This will allows us later to use it as PPM status indication and leave those poor TX/RX LED’s do their intended job.

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Those who ordered the APM2.0 and are still waiting for it (only if is not shipped yet) will have the option to upgrade to the new APM2.5, but you will be required to wait an extra couple of weeks for production to begin. For upgrades please send us an email to sales@3drobotics.com. 

If you want to order one now you can get the assembled version here and the unassembled version here (for those who want their choice of RC connector: straight or right-angled). They will begin shipping in a week or so, but if there is a huge flood of orders, the backlog for any individual order may grow to 2-4 weeks. We're making them at the new Tijuana facility, so we hope that we'll be able to keep up with demand much better than we have in the past. We're committed to shrinking all delays, and our investment in the Tijuana facility is just one sign of this.

The APM 2.0 enclosures will not fit this new board, so new enclosures are on their way. If you buy an APM 2.5 now, you will get a $4.99 credit for a free enclosure with your next order (the enclosures should be in in about a month).  Also, APM 2.5 will ship with an adapter cable for the 3DR/Xbee radios, converting from the APM 2.5 DF13 connector to the radios' conventional 6-pin connectors.  Eagle files for the boards will be posted in the next few days.

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  • What is PX4? I understand it is a cable connector standard, but isn't it a Competing autopilot company too?
  • Beautiful board Jordi,

    Just a few thoughts.

    I have an APM 2 on a KK quad and love it.

    Great to get the 2.5 all on one board.

    Personally I think that having the GPS separate is a good idea because you can locate it for clearest Sky view separate from any RF absorbing or reflecting influences.

    Also like the capability for adding external magnetometer, they can be a little fussy right near pulsing power cables.

    I'm pretty sure that you are using a sort of (standard???) board size and mounting hole layout at this point and I think it would be a very good idea to publish that information on your main sale page for those who would like to plan and build in the mount before their board arrives.

    An additional thought, I am working on an Ardurover design at the moment and also starting to use Microsofts Robot design studio.

    Clearly the Kinect is a great thing despite its physical clunkiness and it's need to be hooked to a Windows machine.

    Nonetheless, the Kinect and the APM 2.5 make for some awe inspiring possibilities I will probably be heading that direction.

  • That's awesome news!  We will start integrating the APM2,5 as well in our Aeromappers UAVs.

    Pretty soon we'll annouce pricing of "Option C" of the Aeromapper UAV on our website (this option is the Aeromapper UAV RTF with APM integrated and tuned for this platform). Basically to fly autonomously out of the box.

    More info can fe found at http://www.aeromao.com/the_aeromapper_uav

    Next will follow the camera integration and the ballistic parachute for landing.

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  • My order #28198 ( Please send my APM2.5 along with its plastic cover, if you have to wait, to problem )

  • Thanks for clearing up the confusion. Can I now choose the upgraded GPS and if so how can I pay the difference? Might as well get it since both are external.  My only request would be to send the case for free once they arrive without making it a credit with a future purchase.  @ Jordi, can I connect the I2C on the APM2.5 as an output for my Dragon OSD I2C input to read the senors of the APM2.5?

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    @William

    We have 300 back-orders and we don't have APM2.0's for them yet. That's why we are offering to switch to APM2.5.

    So with this post we are notifying customers (you) with at least 2 week of anticipation (APM2.5 will start shipping within two weeks, not yesterday).

    @For everyone:

    I announce it as soon as I have the first prototype working on my desk. We are always prototyping and in many occasions we cancel the revision at the last minute, that's why I can't just say: "Hey guys right now I'm working on something please wait" to later on say "Hey guys I changed my mind, sorry for waiting for nothing".

    If that is case, then APM2.5 will not remain the same for so long, so probably you want to wait another 6 months or more for the next version (and so on for APM2.6 and higher). But don't get upset if at the end there's nothing. Is part of the improvement/innovation process.

    @Jeff You are right. That's why we will give to those who backorder it the opportunity to keep the APM2.0 if they want. Honestly manufacture APM2.0 is hassle for us. In the other hard you can still  Velcro the MTK into the APM2.5 pins to save space. Plus the new external MTK has battery.

    @Kranston, as Jeff mentions we don't know If users will want the old or new version or not, somehow we must give them a way to choose. I agree I should've upgraded everybody and then ask customers to email us if they don't want the new version but i think that might be unfair for some; Because we don't have the right to change an order without the authorization of the user first.

  • Not only do you wait 4 weeks, you have to email them to  upgrade and wait another two weeks or more to get the upgrade. Not to mention wait another month for a case. And if you don't to wait just keep the order for the obsolete one, which was said they are not sure why you would want it since this one is better. I guess we just wait since we can't manufacture boards. BTW where does the PX4 fit into all of this? which is superior. Might as well weigh all the options since we have to wait. Answers????

  • The more I think about this the more I'm disappointed with 3DR. From a customer stand point its discouraging to know that a product that I had to wait over 4 weeks to get to find out its obsolete before I even recieved it. When should we expect the APM 3.0 in another 6 months. I understand products evolve over time and that's business but not giving everyone advance notice is just bad business. I agree with William this isnt a preview of what's to come post. This is a Annoucemnt of its here now.
  • I think for those who just received a 2.0, but want a 2.5, there will still be a demand for the 2.0 with the quad guys who run small platforms and liked the compact form of the 2.0. If I had desire to part with my 2.0 (received less than a month ago) I would list it for sale on the buy/sell/trade section. People might just buy it to avoid the prolonged wait most experience when buying direct from 3DR...

    I dont want to sell mine though, so I am keeping it AND buying the 2.5 :-) Besides are we all forgetting that buying an external Mag and upgrading to the Lea-6 GPS is also kicking up the price $100 from the 2.0?
  • Since my APM2 is still "processing" do I have to notify you that I would prefer the 2.5 or will it automatically be shipped? I read it says to notify sales but in this post it says Yes, the APM 2.x board line has been upgraded to APM 2.5. Unless you'd already ordered a 2.0 board and still wanted it for some reason (and I'm not sure why you would, since this is improved), the original APM 2.0 board is no longer available. If auto how do I change the GPS option because I already own a GPS for my Dragon OSD?  Does anyone know if I can connect the I2C port to the I2C to the Dragon OSD port and get the compass, GPS, barometer info from the APM2.5 that way?

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