I sat down and made a sketch after i got the idea of making a full-size Y6 with an APM2.5 and Arducopter firmware :)

A MC like seat and maybe an Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 running AndroPilot or Droidplanner on the dashboard. Or maybe even Mission Planner. Just make a mission and go for a ride :)

This is the frame for the enignes and this will be covered by a Carbon fiber body.

I guess there will be some hard-core calculations for engine dimensions, weight and propellers. But imagine how cool it will be to ride this Air-Scooter in Stabilize or other modes!! Maybe this is an idea for a Kickstarter prosject??? I would love to start the building and testing of this future scooter! :-)

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Comment by cedivad on August 29, 2013 at 10:51am

I guess that it would need some 200kg of batteries...

payload:batteries = your weight : batteries for the super scooter

Comment by Adam Conway on August 29, 2013 at 10:54am

Control system stability is a challenge with these high inertia systems (both frame inertia and rotating inertia of the props/motors).  There is a reason why you don't see a lot of multi-rotors capable of carrying 100kg.  If you want to get started on something like this read Paul Pounds first.

Comment by Alex Hills on August 29, 2013 at 11:22am

Wouldn't want to have a fly-away on this thing.

Comment by ikrase on August 29, 2013 at 11:26am

You'd probably want to use variable pitch rather than variable velocity on the props, and a gasoline engine to spin them... 

Comment by Alex Hills on August 29, 2013 at 11:30am

Have the gas motor centrally located on the frame and then run shafts to the props.

Comment by Alex Hills on August 29, 2013 at 11:31am

I wonder if you could make the transmission shafts out of CF?

Comment by Gary McCray on August 29, 2013 at 11:32am

An intriguing, but incredibly impractical and totally dangerous undertaking.

Even if you could find 6 of the the 10+ horsepower motors you would need for this to be able to fly, the idea of relying on the APM or PX4 as a man carrying fly by wire aircraft is ludicrously inappropriate.

And as Adam says above, especially for an inherently unstable system where the CG is actually above the thrust roll centers, the dynamics at the high weight do not scale linearly from smaller copters, instability and difficulty of compensating increase rapidly.

Air stays the same density and is compressible, and as a result aircraft respond very differently as mass and size increases.

The reason that traditional helicopters are less problematic in this domain is that the mass of the helicopter hangs well under the rotor acting like a stabilizing pendulum.

Brad Hughey designed a man carrying multicopter, but he had the props all overhead and the batteries and human well underneath.

The Swiss human multicopter works only because it's motor/prop units are spread out over a very wide area, significantly decreasing the roll moment.

And their proposed actually usable design looks a lot more like Brad Hughey's than the one they used to prove it could be done.

Your design would have a very strong tendency to want to do a snap roll to inverted and stay there.

Comment by robert bouwens on August 29, 2013 at 12:08pm

takes some time until april first.

Comment by The Sun on August 29, 2013 at 12:32pm

Why would you use a y-6?

I cant think of a less efficient way to do this.

Comment by Tommy Larsen on August 29, 2013 at 12:44pm

What do you suggest ?

I was thinking Y6 because of as the less bulky way to build it...


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