GoPro and Gimbal


For those of us that have never seen a GoPro camera before, it's hard to imagine just how small this powerful mini really is.

What camera could be smaller while still  providing 10 MP, 1080p video at 60 fps all while packing an amazing wide angle lens? Gopro answered that themselves with there new lineup. Coming from $299 for the Gopro2, and $199 for the Gopro 1. The new GoPro lineup leaves there former lineups resale value plummeting.

    There are 3 models that belong to the new lineup, each one featuring built in WiFi (a $70 backpack addition for the GoPro2) and each one 25% smaller then the GoPro 2. 

Starting the lineup at $199 The white model features 1080p30 / 960p30 / 720p60fps video and a 5MP camera.

The Silver edition ($299) Features 1080p30 / 960p48 / 720p60fp, and a 10MP camera.

But the black steals the show ($399) featuring 1080p60 / 720p120 / 1440p48 / 4kp15 / 2.7kp30 / WVGA-240fps Video and a 12MP camera, as well as an included WiFi remote

Anyone have a 4k Tv?

And you still get the waterproof camera case and mounting accessories free of charge.

Even the older GoPro leaves most camera Gimbal looking overstated, to say the least.

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  • That I think is an Excellent role for Government to play.  I It seems that over here there are 2 extreme Viewpoints in the populous. 1 that we have an absolute right to privacy, and the other that if we don't have anything to hide then we shouldn't worry about it.

    Ive found that in explaining to people the Patriot act, and how there privacy could be invaded without a warrant, I get one of those answers..... With a disturbing amount of people Immediately replying that since there not doing anything wrong, they wouldn't mind the Government looking through there private life.....IF It helps there security.

    Of all the reasons to give up one's freedom,  Fear is at once the worst and the most common reason.

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    At the risk of this turning into a global privacy discussion (too late?), Australia has an interesting approach to privacy.  There are state and federal privacy principles (primarily around storage of physical and logical information) and each state will have different views/laws on privacy.  This information is very badly disseminated.  Whilst there is still some difference between it all, they are slowly coming together.  For the most part however, Australians are still very courteous and do the right thing so maybe that's why there's little on the personal front.  It's more about protecting us from businesses and ensuring the government handles our information correctly.

  • Yes, the United States is somewhat different because a right to privacy is enshrined in the constitution (fourth amendment).

    It's surprising that Australian federal law doesn't even define the concept of "privacy", considering its opposition to voyeurism in the form of pornography.

    According to Wikipedia, there are commonwealth and state privacy laws that apply in Australia. If in doubt, find out.

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    Hi Jonathan,

    Just to clarify this point - In Australia, it's entirely legal to take pictures/video footage of public spaces.  Certainly not for private spaces (into homes, business etc).  As an avid amateur photographer I do try to keep abreast of this.

    "In Australia the taking and publication of a person's photograph, without their consent or knowledge but within the limitations outlined below, is not an invasion of privacy, nor is it in contravention of case or statute law.

    Privacy advocates may disapprove, but in this country people-photography has always been, and for the moment remains, a perfectly legal thing to do."

    "In Australia most forms of "unauthorised" photography have in fact been authorised since the 1937 High Court decision in Victoria Park Racing v. Taylor (1937) 58 CLR 479 (at p.496). This was reaffirmed recently in ABC v Lenah (2001) HCA 63, where the Court ruled that despite the passage of decades since Victoria Park, any concept of a Tort of invasion of privacy still does not exist in Australia.

    As Justice Dowd put it with ruthless clarity in R v Sotheren (2001) NSWSC 204: A person, in our society, does not have a right not to be photographed."

    Main body from, with links to various cases and court decisions - 17 August 2012.

    I know something similar was allowed in France and Poland [when I was there], but i'm just focussing on Australia now.

  • My comment was an oversimplification. I think we all know that FPV currently lacks the resolution required for really effective covert perversion.

    However, viewing unsuspecting people at night using IR illumination is absolutely illegal, regardless of intent, even in public places. As I mentioned in a comment on another post, it's illegal to film someone when they have a "reasonable expectation of privacy". I suggested using visible lighting because nothing says "do not expect privacy" like a copter-mounted white spotlight. It may draw more attention, but it might keep you out of jail if the cops do show up.

  • Both and are advertising day & night lenses for the GoPro and HackHD cams (they use the same lenses) - I have emailed them asking for details and will report back with any information they give me.

    Here is an example of a GoPro with the IR filter removed, filming in pitch-black with an IR light source.  However, if you remove the IR filter like this, the video will be discoloured (pink) in normal lighting conditions.  There is probably no easy way to get the best of both worlds with the same lens unless you were able to find an IR filter that was transparent to the specific wavelength of your IR light source - I'm far from an expert in this area so I'm unsure how difficult this might be to accomplish.

  • Sorry but I never thought to take a picture of one. IT was always just something rigged together, with a cluster of Infrared led's linked together in series, and with the appropriate resistor for the given power source. For those new to IR, a simple experiment is to take a remote control and look at it through the camera on your phone (or any camera really) while you push the buttons. Also a good way to tell if you have a broken remote.

  • Hi Dave,

    I can make images like this (see link) using a sheet of polycarbonate as a black light filter. Of any interest to you??

    Is a low-tech solution we've been using for 15+ years to make black light filter.


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    Oh, certainly no problems here Will. (:  Just touching on your IR flashlights...  Would you have a pic example of one?  And what the output looks like through an IR camera?

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