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I've been working on a new helicopter platform the last few months. Based on an MSH Protos heli which I chose because it's an extremely light weight platform, weighing in at only ~1200g without battery. It has a full belt drive which I much prefer to gears as it's quieter, lower vibration and more reliable. I've had a few problems with it because the belt drive makes a really awesome Van deGraaf generator... not a good thing on a UAV. But I solved that, and am conducting test flights now.


The flight controller is a modified PX4v1. I replaced the switching regulator with a MIC29300, so that I can run it on 2S direct with the servos. Main motor power is 4S 5000, typically this heli would run on 6S 3300. Using the MSH stretch kit and 465mm Spinblade Asymmetric blades. In otherwise standard form, this heli flew for 17 minutes on an old crusty battery, in -10C temperatures.

I have now added a subframe to hold an extra battery, FPV gear with a camera in the nose, and a vibration damped NADIR camera mount to be used for aerial mapping. The idea is to develop a mapping UAV that is superior to a multirotor, offering a valid alternative to a fixed wing for short to medium range missions. The VTOL capabilities would eliminate all the nastiness of catapults, and controlled-crash landings with onboard cameras in rugged areas.  Even the price is attractive at about $400 for the basic kit with motor and ESC (no servos).

Specifications show the advantage of a heli platform. This machine has an AUW including the batteries and camera of only ~3kg. It is 80m long, and about 15cm wide not including the extended legs, and 30cm high. The blades fold for easy transport, without requiring any lose wires or vibration-prone electrical connectors as a folding multirotor does. It actually looks much bigger on the table than it really is. This seems to be very good compared to multirotors I've seen with the same performance. (payload and duration)

Vibrations are always a problem with helis, but manageable with the right design and construction techniques.

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Arducopter really makes helis worthwhile. You could buy two entire heli systems including a Tx for the price of a single DJI Ace One non-waypoint controller.  Or 7 for the cost of a single Ace One waypoint enabled controller.  I strongly prefer the PX4 controller over the APM and Pixhawk, because it offers 32-bit performance in a small package that is easier to mount in a heli frame.

So does it work? I took it up for it's first photo tests yesterday, and it worked beautifully. Better than 80% photos are usable. It flies for 20 minutes in a hover with old, cold batteries (-5C). I'm hoping for closer to 30 minutes while actually moving (helis are more efficient moving than hovering), in warmer weather with new batteries.  It should have an easy cruising speed of 15 m/s with little or no reduction in flight time.  At 20 minutes, this would offer an 18km range, and 27 if it can do 30 minutes.  If you wanted to do FPV and not mapping, you could configure it with a 3rd battery in place of the SX260 and fly for... 30-45 minutes, and a range of up to 36km.  Top airspeed is still TBD, but probably 20-25 m/s.  

Wind penetration and stability is excellent compared to both multirotors and fixed-wing.  You could do a mapping mission in winds up to 40 km/h with little effect on stability or duration.

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If the success continues, I'm going to consider building a large gasser heli.  This would allow flight times up to 2 hours, or payloads on the order of 10 lbs for 30 minutes.  So you could map large areas, or even perform light duty spraying operations.  I'm thinking about local application of a herbicide for things like Giant Hogweed elimination, that sort of thing. Such a large heli does pose significant danger and should only be used in industrial, agricultural or remote areas.

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  • Guy,  I don't know how to read your log.  Put it on the other forum and I think you will get help.  I did notice however that you have your RATE FF all set to zero.  That's probably not good.  Especially if the heli has not been trimmed yet.  Keep in mind today is Easter so you can't expect any answers on the traditional helicopter forum for a bit.

    Regards,

    David R. Boulanger

  • Guy.  Sorry you had problems. Is the swash moving in the proper direction with the transmitter sticks?  If you arm the heli and roll it by hand in stabilize does the swash move in the proper direction to counteract the roll?  Can you post your x,y,z, vibration graph.  You may want to move this over to the other Traditional Helicopter forum.  The experts will want you to post your flight log.  Then most likely they will have an answer to what the problem is.

    Regards,

    David R. Boulanger

  • Guy,  If you are using RSC mode 2 then the input to APM 8 should not move. It should be either high or low. Try this.

    Channel 3 to 3, 6 to 6, 7 to 7 and 8 to 8. Next with channel 8 in a low output position arm the system. When it arms move the left stick a little above its bottom position. this will prevent the system from disarming after a period of time. Next switch your gear switch (CH8) on.  With in 5 seconds or so your motor should start to rotate and speed up to its setpoint.  Again, NO PINION on the motor shaft. 

    Regards,

    David R. Boulanger

  • Robert, thanks for the encouragement and the update on 3.2.

    My HK 450ProV2 FBL (and associated bits) is sitting in Vancouver clearing customs as we speak (type?) and I've got the Pixhawk+GPS sitting on my desk waiting for it all to arrive. I'm really pumped to get started on this build! I just hope my schedule leaves time to get this done.

  • Guy,  I'm glad you are making progress.  I still think things may not be set up properly. Be careful.  Have you looked at all your parameters in the full parameter list in mission planner?  They are all explained reasonably well in the wiki.

    Regards,

    David R. Boulanger

  • Guy, Channel 5 looks good.  It looks like you are using a pitch curve coming out of 6 into 3 on the APM. This is where I think you are confused. Your left stick that is usually throttle on a airplane is your pitch. Try 3->3 and if you gear switch is channel 8 then 8->8. Take your pinion off the motor before you test any of this.  If you have done all your radio calibration right You should be able to arm by holding the left stick down and to the right for about 5 seconds.

    But again, There should be no throttle curve and pitch curve coming out of the radio. It should be in airplane mode or ACRO as some radios say.

    I am not familiar with  the er9x. I am just trying to help the best I can.

    Regards,

    David R. Boulanger

  • Brian, don't worry about what Denny is saying.  He's just trolling because he's upset about me calling him out earlier. 

    I'm not offended by his comments because I know for a fact our code is better than all 3 of DJI's offerings, which are virtually unsupported now (apparently you can't even find a Naza-H for sale anymore?).  And then it's in a completely different class from Skookum and the German systems.  If somebody thinks those other systems suit their needs better, they are of course totally free to use them.  But Arducopter is the ONLY system that brings true UAV functionality to Helicopters at an affordable price.

    And just a reminder that 90+% of the code for helicopters is EXACTLY THE SAME as used on multi-rotors.  The only difference with helicopter code is some of the functionality (ie: Ch8 motor start, etc.) and the flight dynamics.

    And I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I think it's a fair statement that the flight dynamics code in Acro mode for Pixhawk with the 3.2 release will be at least as good as a mediocre FBL controller, if not the higher end ones.  But then will also have all the same UAV functionality you've come to expect of course.  I've made a good bit of progress on the dynamics front and I'm pretty happy with where it's at.

  • Guy, I don't know what firmware you are using but I am using 3.01.  I have H RSC MODE set to 2 and H GOV SETPOINT set to 1725.  In this mode if you send a high signal into APM 8 (over 1800 PWM I think ) it will send out your set point PWM. In my case 1725 is about 70%.  If you are not armed and you accidentally hit the switch nothing will be sent to your ESC. So it is safe and prevents you from flying unarmed

    Regards,

    David R. Boulanger

  • Guy, Use airplane mode on your transmitter.  I was reluctant at first after using Heli on my transmitter for so long. The throttle stick becomes your blade pitch. In my setup I use channel 5 ( gear ) to send a high signal to the APM ch8 input to tell it to spool up the motor.  It seems that there is a variety of ways people choose to set up their radios to achieve the same purpose.  Does that make some sense?

    Regards,

    David R. Boulanger

  • Denny, you are, of course, entitled to go in whatever direction you think best, but suggesting that ArduPlane and ArduCopter "seems to have far better people working on it" is entirely without basis. The developers for Traditional Heli are highly skilled, motivated and AVAILABLE to the community (something that you will not find in any of the commercial systems you've mentioned).

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