How-to launch an arduplane (XUAV Talon) ?
Introduction:
A XUAV Talon is a relatively heavy airframe (between 2,5 and 3Kg depending on its configuration) to launch. Other EPP/EPO FPV large airframes come in the same weight category. So, how to launch/take-off with such large/heavy UAV planes ?
There are three ways, that I know of, to take-off :
- Hand launching,
-requires two people : one keeping both hands on his Tx control sticks; the other one throwing the plane in the air. A two man operation is not always convenient nor possible on the field.
-it is dangerous : the propeller might shred the launcher's hand...
-launch is not systematically succesful as the plane is not systematically thrown correctly (angles, strength)
- Roling the plane on a runway up to take-off speed,
-requires a runway, long enough & flat. Not really like that in real fields.
-requires wheels on the front, back (or wings) and a steering system : not available on all planes such as the XUAV Talon.
- A catapult launch system
-requires a cheap, reliable, transportable system
-requires enough catapult launch force to handle +3kg planes
The catapult build published hereunder attempts to be a synthesis of lots of ideas and information found on diydrones, rcgroups forum & rc experts youtube videos.
This catapult system is a built intended and tested to launch a XUAV Talon, i.e. a large 2 m wingspan FPV plane (wing extensions) in the 3kg weight category.
This guide first describes the parts and assembly steps; then a result video of (succesful) field tests is shown at the end.
Catapult's parts list & Assembly steps:
The list of parts is shown herebelow:
Cables/ropes setup:
Two types of ropes are required. An elastic rope (a sandow) will provide the force to catapult the plane. A second non elastic nylon rope (or any other strong enough rope) will pull the plane (via a hook fixed on the plane, see further) and will be used to trigger the elastic sandow.
The sandow is shown herebelow:
On one side of the 10 m sandow is a loop that will be fixed on the ground by a (very strong) tent hook. On the other end, the sandow attaches to the nylon rope.
The nylon rope part is shown below:
On one end the nylon rope is attached to the sandow as shown below:
On the other end the nylon rope ends with a loop that will be fixed on the ground with a (very strong) tent hook. This last extremity will be released to trigger the elastic (see further).
At about 3 meters from the sandow-nylon rope junction, a Y is formed : a one meter nylon rope piece and a piece of about 5 meters. The one meter piece ends with a loop that will be attached on the plane's hook. This is the piece that will pull the plane out of the catapult. The other (5m long) piece will act as the trigger (when released from its ground retaining tent hook).
Catapult structure setup:
The catapult body is assembled with PVC tubing. These PVC tubes must be large enough to support the weight of the plane; therefore a suggested minimum diameter of 35 mm.
The longest tube part is about 150 cm; therefore three 2 meters long tubes are enough for the build.
The tubes are glued together, as show on pictures below. Two types of PVC junctions are used : T's and 90 degree angle,
The length of the front and back "legs" of the catapult are chosen so that the launch angle is not too steep and smaller than 45 degrees. The resulting angle with these given dimensions is about 30 degrees max.
The plane, when pulled by the rope, will glide on the two top PVC tubes. The plane wings would get ripped if gliding on the two 90 degree PVC connectors; they must therefore be trimmed, as shown below:
To adjust easily the width of the two left/right catapult rails, a metal bar (of smaller diameter than the inner PVC tube diameter) is inserted horizontally inside/between the two front legs,
XUAV plane setup on the catapult launch system:
The plane left and right wings sit on top of the catapult PVC left/right PVC rails:
The sandow and rope are fixed like this:
This is where the fishing hand scale is used : the sandow must be streched to provide an elastic force of about 5 times the plane's weight. So for a 3kg XUAV Talon, the sandow must be streched to provide 15Kg of force.
To measure this, the sandow extremity is first fixed to a point in the ground with a tent's hook. The other end of the nylon rope assembly is attached to the scale hook; then pulled until 5x the weight is read on the scale. This gives the position where the nylon rope will be released to trigger the sandow (cf video below for a visualization of this explanation).
The 1m nylon rope section (forming a Y junction), attaches to the plane, on the plane's bottom hook. This one meter section must also be kept in a streched state when launching.
The plane's hook must be strongly secured so as not to be ripped off when releasing the sandow brutal force. This cannot be fixed on foam only; it needs plywood or aluminium reinforcements. On the XUAV Talon, the optional plywood landing gear base is used to securely fix an aluminium hook:
The hook must be placed slightly in front of the CG line of the plane. On the XUAV Talon, the CG line is located at about the servo wires position on the wings (see picture).
If the hook is not located right, the plane will not be pulled right and will eventually flip to the sides or upside down.
The results in video
Cheers,
Hugues
Comments
@Criro, I'm using the wing extensions and have tested at what speed it stalls and if it is recoverable when stalling. I can tell you how incredibly slow the Talon can fly with these wing extensions (and little weight of course). I forced into stall and could recover every time just a couple of meters above ground. A great plane this XUAV Talon !
@Mauricio, yes hook is better further ahead away from the CG. I disagree with your safety feeling of handlaunches, especially with the fact that on the Talon I install up to 15 inches props that exceed by far the bottom of the plane. Also it is unconvenient and unsafe to handlaunch with one hand and try to hold your control sticks with the other hand...You might just be lucky not to have had any issues until now, but I know others who shred their hands already...
@Gustav, it was voluntarily launched with the motor off as I had a too big prop to not cut the nylon rope in these tests (therefore something to improve is to raise the catapult a bit higher so I can use up to 15 inch props without touching the ground and/or the cable just underneath the prop in the launch position).
Well, None of the launches in the video looked safe/controlled.
Firstly, the hook has to go much further forward, secondly, launch with the motor at full power.
We fly RC next to a full size glider club, and they attach a winch launch cable well forward of CG.
I used to fly hang gliders, and both in aero towing, and winch launch, my effective "pull" point was well in front of my "center of mass".
I'm no expert, but my motto is "If it works, don't f... with it!"
Fiddle, THAT's the word I was looking for :-)
The hook on your Talon is too close to the CG. We have shipped like a dozen Aeromapper Talons or more, and never needed a catapult, even with the plane fully loaded (3,8Kg). It always takes off in AUTO and 60% throttle, no problem there, climbs very nicely.
It is actually very safe to handlaunch, just use a leather glove, since the prop is high from the center line.
We have made many dozens of flights in the Talon and always handlaunch, I don't think it is really necessary a launcher for this plane.... just my thoughts. I would say just a proper set parameter file so it takes off ok in Auto every time and leather glove is much simpler.
I perfect agree with Petrus.
This is visible on video on the plane takeoff stability.
Sure if will be some little wind, your plane will stall.
Hi "Not sure", would you have a schema or illustration about your idea?
Move the launch hook forward, halfway between the nose and cg
@Huges: I think this really depends on the weight of your plane, the speed it needs to accelerate to and the strength of the chord. I usually use 20m rubber band (similar to what one can get from HK) and 20m normal chord for a 2kg flying wing with a stall speed of 50kph.
Best
-S
Put a rod out further along the chord to prop the chord up higher, and you won't see that nasty stall characteristic as it's coming off the launcher, as it's trying to pull the plane down, and it's wanting to go up. The rod can be something simple like a shovel for example, so it simply falls over once the tension is released. That it wont' pull down.
Thx Antonie, Gary, Simon.
@Simon, I'd like your viewpoint on what would be the best bungee cable length (does it have an impact ?)
Hi. I would strongly advice to keep the hook close to the GC. Otherwise the bungie will pull down the nose at very low speeds where there is not much (or no) elevator authority. I have been doing bungie launches on several airframes over the last couple of years.
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