Lately I have been following the kikstarter project “The pocket Drone” which is having a huge impact.
First of all I am a bit pissed off because in the kikstarter project there is just this mention to Ardupilot!
• APM compatible flight controller 6-axis accelerometers, 3 axis gyroscopes, barometric sensor (altitude)

There is not any comment or anything relating DIYD or 3DR!

Second in this interview they present the product without even mentioning Arducopter, but when they are asked on what OS do they use they say “currently is based in the arducopter OS, is using an opencourse plataform that we’ve added layers on top” (I am sure you did…) at minute 8:30 if you want to here it.

I think that is totally immoral that a guys that all what did was print a tricoper and arrange with Chinese manufacturer for cheap electronics, pretend to be what they pretend to be!

But the truly important problem is not that. On both sites they are giving to understand that this is product that does not need any special attention or precaution, even less any experience! In a lot of moments things like “it always seemed like either mom or dad (the photographer) was missing from family pictures. We’re proud to announce the launch of The Pocket Drone to address these challenges. Many of our supporters are calling it the "GoPro of drones." “ are said. What! How can you compare a product like Arducopter to a GoPro camera? That just needs you to press a button to record! When in the documentation is said hundreds of times that this is something to take seriously (and I think is not said enough).
So I think this is actually a fraud, they are pretending to sell a thing that they are not selling, but even more important to my point of view is that for the moment there is 1200 people that has not any experience with drones that bought one (I say 1200 because there is 1200 totally RTF kits sold at the moment on Kikstarter).
So in a few months at least 1200 people will go out with a drone thinking that is as easy to control as a gopro. And they all, all without any exception will crash and god knows what else!
I find it really worrying, and I think that since we are the community that is actually behind that project (even though they pretend we’re not) we should take some actions about it. Not allowing that people is tricked, and not allowing not necessary accidents to happen.

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Comment by Eli Cohen on February 24, 2014 at 3:02pm

the thing I find odd about their kickstarter is that they make the claim that "Our team founded and leads the Drone User Group Network (, the world’s largest community organization dedicated to teaching people to build and operate their own flying robots." Their website then says that they have over 3,000 members! Last I checked, this website we are on right now seemed to be doing a looooooot better than that.

Their website actually seems quite bare, overall. I'm not trying to say anything, merely observing! 

I think we are going to see plenty of people trying to make a profit on open source work (which is completely ok) but the caliber is not always going to be where we might want it. That being said, their vehicle does seem well thought out and certainly more "production" quality than a lot of what we might be flying so kudos to them for putting the effort in to creating a well packaged vehicle which is a feat in and of itself. Don't forget that robust airframe design is something a lot of people are looking for. 

There is always a lot of hyperbole surrounding projects like this, and people outside the hobby or industry can be readily impressed by features that have been around forever but that's sort of the way things work! 

Comment by Mustafa TULU on February 24, 2014 at 3:16pm

Totally agreed with this topic. What they did is just print the frame arrange the components, there is this pottential that those 1200 user can damage: buildings, cars, animals and most important one the people. The more they crash the more public news will interest with the topic and the more restrictions for drones. The one thing makes me pissed off is they make drones look like a toy, they did not mentioned the danger side of it!!!

Comment by lot on February 24, 2014 at 3:17pm

For me the most inmoral is use kick starter to make the patent of the propellers and eliminate any kind of open source foldable props.

Comment by Carles Gelada on February 24, 2014 at 3:17pm

I mean, it totally fine that if they have a cool frame they create a kikstarter campain, but that is not what i am talking about.

I think that a letter to kikstarter should be sended, and they should advise all of the people how bought the product.

Comment by Nigel Cartwright on February 24, 2014 at 3:22pm

What's patentable about the props?? That design has been around for years. And they are standard props, with one blade sawn off in some pics...!

Comment by Carles Gelada on February 24, 2014 at 3:28pm

"Our revolutionary and proprietary collapsible propellers make it easier ..."

Comment by AKRCGUY on February 24, 2014 at 3:30pm

I agree with Eli on them commenting about the "Largest community".  We (DIYDrones) were around long before they were and have 10 times the members not to mention the Arducopter platform.

Comment by Carles Gelada on February 24, 2014 at 3:39pm

Actually I was thinking... a lots of opensource licenses force any comertial activity to mention the opensource project. Does someone knows if that is the case?

Comment by Brett Smith on February 24, 2014 at 3:41pm

I think you should give hobbyists more credit, I would guess that a hefty percentage of those people going on to kickstarter to back a project like this are already involved in RC in some form.

Comment by Carles Gelada on February 24, 2014 at 3:42pm

and why would they buy a kit with a bad transmitter ?


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