Kids, be careful out there. Full waypoint-capable UAVs are illegal to sell in the US without Export Control documentation and other safeguards. Don't be this guy:
From Yahoo News: "ST. PETERSBURG, Fla (Reuters) – A Philippine man was arrested and charged with illegally selling an unmanned U.S. spy plane known as the Raven, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Tampa said on Monday.
A grand jury indicted Henson Chua, 47, of Manila on March 10 on charges that he sold the Raven to undercover federal agents on Ebay.
He faces up to 20 years in federal prison if convicted of smuggling and violating the Arms Export Control Act.
Chua was arrested when he came to Los Angeles in February.
The Raven is a four-pound plane equipped with three cameras that U.S. troops use for battlefield surveillance. It can be taken apart and carried by troops and then reassembled for use.
According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, agents with the Homeland Security Department found out last May that Chua was offering a Raven for sale on Ebay for $13,000.
They exchanged messages with Chua over several months, and he sent the Raven to them in separate packages in exchange for the money, officials said."
(via Gawker)
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Dareen, are you saying after the Govt is done with it they can get rid of it?
Wow, that is a big revision from: it has to be destroyed.
I will agree with that revision.
There's more than meets the eye with this sale. Most of the press stories, including the one listed with this post, are incorrect. Check out this well-written post on Export Law Blog: http://www.exportlawblog.com/archives/2998
The sale was not of a full Raven system, but for individual parts, and this involved importing the parts into the US, something that itself is entirely legal. What happened was that Chua was told by his prospective customers (US agents in disguise) that they would be re-exporting to Russia, something that is illegal. Read the blog post for the rest of the story.
One way or another, the message is clear- export control is an area not treaded lightly...
If you have some spare time to kill and are willing to spend that time to figure out where our tax money is wasted (also) just have a peek on wassenaar arrangement
after reading the following lines:
1. B. 3. Tools, dies, moulds or fixtures, for "superplastic forming" or "diffusion bonding" titanium, aluminium or their alloys, specially designed for the manufacture of any of the following:
a. Airframe or aerospace structures;
b. "Aircraft" or aerospace engines; or
c. Specially designed components for structures specified by 1.B.3.a. or for engines specified by 1.B.3.b..
I just sigh and stopped reading. How long before they will arrest me for be the proud father of 3 boys who can't resist taking things a part. Surely they are terrorist to be...
Now i'm going to pack some underwear and a toothbrush (if i may keep those in prison) ;-)
It's not a theif because he didn't stole. He isn't a receiver of stolen goods too (even the romans had a name for that "res furtiva"). This would be a case of misappropriation. There is a prescription time of x years after it can go into the property of the finder. Before that the finder is only owner. Property and ownership are not the same.
But this rules are for legal systems based on roman law/code civil. The anglo-saxon case law system may be different here but not in this point.
BTW, if you want a genuine US military M4 (M16 carbine form) or anything alse here is one of a few thousand dealers in the USA.
Yes these are civilian legal unless you are a fellon or your state bans them, mine doesn't.
Pay the BATF transfer fee, the FBI check and the gun... and you own it.
So much for your destroying all military equipment theory.
Done with this thread. It has gone from sublime to ridiculous.
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