I think it is very clear that this gimbal is specific to one camera and one camera only which is the GoPro and likely only the Hero3. Sure you could run other gimbals but if 3DR is going to go through designing a gimbal why limit to a single camera which this clearly looks like to be.
And no, now is not premature as it might be early enough in the dev cycle to catch and change course to something that I would consider more DIY and less one brand (GoPro) focused.
The hope is for people to think outside of the friken GoPro as there is a larger world than that and provide tools the support multiple paths which I think should be the 3DR mission/vision.
With respect LanMark, isn't that what they're doing? They haven't said much about the controller, but as their goal has always been a full featured flight controller, I would expect that the gimbal controller they're working on will have some integration with APM, which means you're not limited to a GoPro sized gimbal. There are other brushless gimbal options out there, and even more people building their own. The gimbal itself isn't complicated, the controller is where the work is.
I think it's premature to complain about what cameras are supported, or actually ever complain at all. It's an open source, DIY world, if it doesn't fit the camera you want to fly, build or buy one that does.
John, I would expect that a company like 3DR would be on the side of customer options and not on the side of a single camera solution. There are ways to resolve CoG and other elements.
My point really is that 3DR should push choices and let the community figure out the uses instead of limiting to a poor optical experience which is the GoPro. There are plenty of customers with standard compact point and shoot cameras like a S95 or S110 that they would much rather fly and have a nice quality photo than a fisheye photo.
Allowing people to have a choice and figure out new and interesting ways to do something is a much better path than one camera ONLY. I would love to see more people flying a NIR camera and doing aerial surveying and other real UAV utility functions.. than just fly to take pretty pictures and video.
+1 Lanmark, i would lobe a more generic gimbal to fit my own compact canon point and shoot. gopros are way too expensive and are very poor picture performers.
LanMark, brush-less gimbals have very little torque and need the camera to be perfectly balanced to be able to rotate quickly enough and get good results. To help with this, the gimbal must be carefully designed for the weight class and shape of the camera to be used. And since most cameras do not have the CoG of the housing aligned with the lens center, it is not possible to place the camera at the center of the lens and maintain gimbal balance. To do so, you would have to place extra weight on the gimbal to balance it out.
But in practice, having the lens rotation off by a couple of centimeters does not impact the result. Especially when working with large focus distances (infinity) like you do on copters.
Guys I am afraid these type of gimbals require precise spacing and alignment for mass and lens to be effective... so that is why you will often see a specific model for a specific camera type. I am not saying that special plates cannot be done but it involve more than just mounting screws location change.
I am testing quite a few around here and in order to really make it worth the money I have to say that not many of the cheap ones works well. Can't wait for this one, really want to carry it if it works!
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I think it is very clear that this gimbal is specific to one camera and one camera only which is the GoPro and likely only the Hero3. Sure you could run other gimbals but if 3DR is going to go through designing a gimbal why limit to a single camera which this clearly looks like to be.
And no, now is not premature as it might be early enough in the dev cycle to catch and change course to something that I would consider more DIY and less one brand (GoPro) focused.
The hope is for people to think outside of the friken GoPro as there is a larger world than that and provide tools the support multiple paths which I think should be the 3DR mission/vision.
With respect LanMark, isn't that what they're doing? They haven't said much about the controller, but as their goal has always been a full featured flight controller, I would expect that the gimbal controller they're working on will have some integration with APM, which means you're not limited to a GoPro sized gimbal. There are other brushless gimbal options out there, and even more people building their own. The gimbal itself isn't complicated, the controller is where the work is.
I think it's premature to complain about what cameras are supported, or actually ever complain at all. It's an open source, DIY world, if it doesn't fit the camera you want to fly, build or buy one that does.
John, I would expect that a company like 3DR would be on the side of customer options and not on the side of a single camera solution. There are ways to resolve CoG and other elements.
My point really is that 3DR should push choices and let the community figure out the uses instead of limiting to a poor optical experience which is the GoPro. There are plenty of customers with standard compact point and shoot cameras like a S95 or S110 that they would much rather fly and have a nice quality photo than a fisheye photo.
Allowing people to have a choice and figure out new and interesting ways to do something is a much better path than one camera ONLY. I would love to see more people flying a NIR camera and doing aerial surveying and other real UAV utility functions.. than just fly to take pretty pictures and video.
WANT.
LanMark, brush-less gimbals have very little torque and need the camera to be perfectly balanced to be able to rotate quickly enough and get good results. To help with this, the gimbal must be carefully designed for the weight class and shape of the camera to be used. And since most cameras do not have the CoG of the housing aligned with the lens center, it is not possible to place the camera at the center of the lens and maintain gimbal balance. To do so, you would have to place extra weight on the gimbal to balance it out.
But in practice, having the lens rotation off by a couple of centimeters does not impact the result. Especially when working with large focus distances (infinity) like you do on copters.
Cute, want one too!
Guys I am afraid these type of gimbals require precise spacing and alignment for mass and lens to be effective... so that is why you will often see a specific model for a specific camera type. I am not saying that special plates cannot be done but it involve more than just mounting screws location change.
I am testing quite a few around here and in order to really make it worth the money I have to say that not many of the cheap ones works well. Can't wait for this one, really want to carry it if it works!
Dany
I WANT one NOW!!! :-)
How to shoot video like this :D